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    • Minion QueenM
      Minion Queen Banned
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      Seriously though there is always fear when you are responsible for someone else. But the love and joy and other rewards are pretty awesome. As much as I have wanted to choke and kill my kid from time to time (he is 18 now). He is one of my best friends and I wouldn't trade all the bad stuff that came with him for anything. And not to revel anything but the bad for us was really bad at one point in time.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @wirestyle22 Don't not do something just because you're scarred, ever! Especially kids! The one and only thing that me and my wife regretted was her inability to have children. Yes, tragedies do happen, but they're the vast minority.

        Most things, like cancer, are also totally treatable without the insanity the US puts people through. Mexico (yeah, seems crazy I know) chrisbeatcancer.com story. It's all about what you know, and you're hooked into some good places to find out.

        We get our kids healthcare outside of the US as well. Cheap, easy and better.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @wirestyle22 Don't not do something just because you're scarred, ever! Especially kids! The one and only thing that me and my wife regretted was her inability to have children. Yes, tragedies do happen, but they're the vast minority.

          Most things, like cancer, are also totally treatable without the insanity the US puts people through. Mexico (yeah, seems crazy I know) chrisbeatcancer.com story. It's all about what you know, and you're hooked into some good places to find out.

          We get our kids healthcare outside of the US as well. Cheap, easy and better.

          I'll try not to open this can of worms again other than to say: Good for you.

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          • coliverC
            coliver
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            There are going to be some rough times. My daughter cried for basically the first 7 days of her life. It was really rough for my wife and I, but we soldiered on and a few weeks later she was smiling at us and cooing. The first smile she gave me was worth the days of crying.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @Kelly
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              @Kelly Not above or against counseling. When I lost my dad a year ago I met with someone to make sure I was processing it in a healthy way. I think it's a useful tool

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @coliver
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                @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @wirestyle22 When I was born I was given just a few hours to live. My parents took some very risky, and at the time experimental, steps via surgery to extend my life a few days. I went through an 8 hour surgery when I was just a few hours old. My parents didn't know if I was going to live or not, even if the surgery was successful they were warned that I probably wouldn't live much past 3 or 4.

                I never wanted to go through what my parents went through. So when we got pregnant I never became very attached, she never seemed real to me. It wasn't until I watched her being born that I started to fall in love. It's really an amazing feeling something unlike anything else, it's not like loving your partner at all something much different but equally rewarding.

                I'll echo @scottalanmiller and my parents. I would much rather experience this feeling then not having known it existed. (Isn't there a Shakespear quote for this?)

                As an aside you should look into the effects of pregnancy on the brain chemistry of both the mother and father it is truly fascinating.

                I'm glad you're alive man! That is a wild story.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22
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                  Let me tell you guys the story of why I feel the way I do about this. Laura and I have a family friend who got pregnant with her husband. They were so happy. Did everything right. The mother was overweight when she got pregnant and developed gestational diabetes (I'm unsure if that contributed to what eventually happened). They went the entire 8.5 months with everything being fine. Got their last checkup before giving birth and the baby had passed away. No real cause given as far as I know. When this happens so close to birth, you still need to give birth the baby even though it isn't alive anymore. This isn't a news story, it's a person I know.

                  As much as something like this would change me forever (and I really mean forever), I don't think my fear is for myself but rather for Laura. I can't give birth for her. I can't do any of it for her. If something happens I'll be powerless to stop it. That sort of thing.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 we had to fly back to the States not so long ago to be with family that had something very similar happen. It was nearly time for the baby and suddenly the very healthy baby was just... gone. My older sister was like that too, just before she was to be born, she didn't make it. It's been 49 years since my parents lost her and she is still very much in my father's thoughts every day (my mom passed over a decade ago.) That's not something that will ever go away. But I don't think that they ever regretted giving her a chance. Sure it's been terrible for them, and it took them nearly a decade to try again with me and after I was born they stopped (wouldn't you) but I don't think that they regret it.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      Let me tell you guys the story of why I feel the way I do about this. Laura and I have a family friend who got pregnant with her husband. They were so happy. Did everything right. The mother was overweight when she got pregnant and developed gestational diabetes (I'm unsure if that contributed to what eventually happened). They went the entire 8.5 months with everything being fine. Got their last checkup before giving birth and the baby was gone. No real cause given as far as I know. When this happens so close to birth, you still need to give birth the baby even though it isn't alive anymore. This isn't a news story, it's a person I know.

                      As much as something like this would change me forever (and I really mean forever), I don't think my fear is for myself but rather for Laura. I can't give birth for her. I can't do any of it for her. If something happens I'll be powerless to stop it. That sort of thing.

                      Statistically late term miscarriages are less than a percent. Still births (where the baby was fine at the last appointment but isn't at delivery) are even rarer. I generally find comfort in numbers.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @wirestyle22
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                        @wirestyle22 said

                        As much as something like this would change me forever (and I really mean forever), I don't think my fear is for myself but rather for Laura. I can't give birth for her. I can't do any of it for her. If something happens I'll be powerless to stop it. That sort of thing.

                        It might change you for the better. You never know how life will turn out.

                        Just gotta love yourself and the people close to you and hope it all works out.

                        Oh, and drink alcohol. 🙂

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @coliver
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                          @coliver My brain finds comfort in it but my feelings don't

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22
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                            Laura asked me last night what purpose our lives serve if we don't have kids? She's right. I would sit and play video games my entire life, learn as much as I could and then die. Seems pointless. It doesn't shake my fear though.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller I'm sorry that happened. I lost a brother similarly and I always wonder what he would've been like. I have 2 brothers and a sister. I'd still like another 😄

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @wirestyle22
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                                @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @coliver My brain finds comfort in it but my feelings don't

                                Not to be morbid, but 80% of miscarriages happen in the first 12 weeks. After that your risk goes down significantly every week. I think in the third trimester your risk is something like 1 in 160.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @coliver
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                                  @coliver Yeah. I keep seeing statistically unlikely things happen. I appreciate the thought though. Not trying to just deny it all

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22
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                                    I'll think on it. Thanks ML

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Laura asked me last night what purpose our lives serve if we don't have kids? She's right. I would sit and play video games my entire life, learn as much as I could and then die. Seems pointless. It doesn't shake my fear though.

                                      I know that a lot of people put their whole purpose in live is to pass long their genes, but I don't buy that, not as the dominate species on this planet. We no longer need to work that way.

                                      You can use your life for whatever you want. What makes playing video games and learning below having progeny? Other people's opinions that what - and really I just stopped listening. People used to give me a hard time about not having/wanting kids. It's just not my mission in life, nor does it need to be.

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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender It's definitely a choice that can be made and respected. It's more about my fear than it is about whether or not someone should have a kid

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                                        • ChrisLC
                                          ChrisL @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          I know that a lot of people put their whole purpose in live is to pass long their genes, but I don't buy that, not as the dominate species on this planet. We no longer need to work that way.

                                          You can use your life for whatever you want. What makes playing video games and learning below having progeny? Other people's opinions that what - and really I just stopped listening. People used to give me a hard time about not having/wanting kids. It's just not my mission in life, nor does it need to be.

                                          I'm with you--we can do whatever we want in this life since there are 7+ billion of us . I'm a wholly selfish person, and I constantly flip-flop on whether I want kids of my own. I love my niece and the majority of kids I come in contact with, but at the end of the day I enjoy the endless freedom I have.

                                          I think at this point, if anything, I'd like to adopt. I was born with a congenital heart defect that I'd rather not risk passing on, plus there are numerous children in the US and the world that need love and a good home.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @Dashrender It's definitely a choice that can be made and respected. It's more about my fear than it is about whether or not someone should have a kid

                                            We all have those fears - though I suppose when it comes to life most people consider it the pinnacle of concern, and if life is lost that other life can't continue. Clearly we see that on the new nearly every day. I guess what I'm trying to say is that there is probably nothing anyone can say to assuage your fears, but we're here to talk if you need us 🙂

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