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    Understanding RAID 5 with SSD (Solid State Drives)

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Deleted74295
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      @Breffni-Potter said:

      @Drew - Ahh, internet mob mentality.

      So much this.

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      • Deleted74295D
        Deleted74295 Banned
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        @JaredBusch said:

        @Breffni-Potter said:

        @Drew - Ahh, internet mob mentality.

        So much this.

        Actually wait, that applies to anything, just look at most users. Not just internet mobs.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Deleted74295
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          @Breffni-Potter said:

          Actually wait, that applies to anything, just look at most users. Not just internet mobs.

          It is widely applicable, but simply more pronounced in the pseudo anonymous realm of the internet.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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            @Carnival-Boy said:

            So is RAID 5 set to become the de facto choice for the majority of SMBs now?

            I would say so as long as to become is dependent on SSDs also becoming the standard, which they are set to be but are not yet. I'd say SSDs as the SMB default for new installs is likely close to two years ago, but getting close in IT terms for sure.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Carnival Boy
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              @Carnival-Boy said:

              Yes. I'm assuming that SSDs will become the norm soon, and hence RAID 5 will become the primary choice.

              Yes, and like on Winchester drives, RAID 5 will probably remain the standard for many years.

              Unlike Winchester drives where UREs and massive capacity caused RAID 5 to "fail" on effectiveness, by guess is that for SSDs the disruptor is going to be a move to inclusive SSD systems like FusionIO that are not treated like traditional drives and the RAID is built into the system.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Drew
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                @Drew said:

                Great Post.

                I've often seen people over at spiceworks blindly put down anyone suggesting RAID 5 as an option when brought up in SSD discussions. They've learned RAID 5 = bad period not RAID 5 = bad because of the above reasons.

                Which is how we got into the problematic position in the first place because everyone read the white papers from 1998 that said "RAID 5 is generally the best choice because of cost savings" and interpreted that as RAID 5 = good and failed to learn the reasons that RAID 5 was chosen on small Winchester disks in the late 1990s.

                It's amazing how quickly the pattern of attempting to learn IT as a simple set of rules rather than "good starting points combined with an understanding of the technology so that it is understood when to deviate from the norm."

                The worst part is probably that so many people think that IT is so simplistic that we can have a simple set of rules that anyone without training could follow blindly rather than needing to actually understand the technology and apply that knowledge as needed. This is what leads, I think, to say many posts asking "What's the best X" as if there is always one single answer and that the secret to IT is getting this closely guarded knowledge rather than needing to understand products, techniques, risk, cost, etc.

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                • Bob BeattyB
                  Bob Beatty @Deleted74295
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                  @Breffni-Potter I agree with everything Scott says, with the exception of stopping at strange bars in the middle of the jungle at 10:00 at night.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Bob Beatty
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                    @Bob-Beatty said:

                    @Breffni-Potter I agree with everything Scott says, with the exception of stopping at strange bars in the middle of the jungle at 10:00 at night.

                    That was more like "on the edge of the jungle" and @pchiodo will back me up that that was a great decision.

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                      Deleted74295 Banned @Bob Beatty
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                      @Bob-Beatty said:

                      @Breffni-Potter I agree with everything Scott says, with the exception of stopping at strange bars in the middle of the jungle at 10:00 at night.

                      Are you honestly telling me it was just the "one" thing you disagreed with? 🙂

                      I suspect there might be a few more bar visits you would object to if you cast your mind back.

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                      • Bob BeattyB
                        Bob Beatty @Deleted74295
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                        @Breffni-Potter said:

                        @Bob-Beatty said:

                        @Breffni-Potter I agree with everything Scott says, with the exception of stopping at strange bars in the middle of the jungle at 10:00 at night.

                        Are you honestly telling me it was just the "one" thing you disagreed with? 🙂

                        I suspect there might be a few more bar visits you would object to if you cast your mind back.

                        haha! I.. cant.... remember too many bar visits with Scott, or I may agree with your comment... 😛

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