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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said:

      Zerotier looks useful, I'm wondering if it could be setup as a VM, to support a VM that receives public traffic hrmmm..... now the possibilities.

      I think that you would want it hosted to do the things that it needs to do. Look at Digital Ocean and Vultr.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        So use a third party, or dedicated machine to do this, rather than configure it directly myself.

        Defeats the goal then.

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre
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          Scott is thinking of this as more for a production system... Spinning it up on your own and testing it and getting a feel for it is a great idea... If you decide you like it and you want to not have to worry about what happens if your home internet goes down, then move it to DO or Vultr, et al.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said:

            So use a third party, or dedicated machine to do this, rather than configure it directly myself.

            Defeats the goal then.

            The goal is VPN access to anywhere, from anywhere, right? If not, what is your goal... and this is not likely the right tool for you.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              @DustinB3403 said:

              So use a third party, or dedicated machine to do this, rather than configure it directly myself.

              Defeats the goal then.

              The goal is VPN access to anywhere, from anywhere, right? If not, what is your goal... and this is not likely the right tool for you.

              For a home lab environment, the purpose is learning to use it 8-) Besides -- he can run the controller bits out of his home lab as well. Just... if his home loses power or internet, there will obviously be issues, lol.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                @dafyre said:

                For a home lab environment, the purpose is learning to use it 8-)

                Are we sure. That's not the purpose of my home lab. I would state that my purpose is to learn how to use and operate equipment as if it was production. Learning the tech bits is good, learning the full operational mindset associated is better. Run it like a business rather than like a lab (even though it is a lab.)

                http://www.smbitjournal.com/2015/06/make-your-business-jealous/

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said:

                  Besides -- he can run the controller bits out of his home lab as well. Just... if his home loses power or internet, there will obviously be issues, lol.

                  How does it handle the connections if he IP address changes?

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre
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                    It appears to operate in a similar fashion to P2P is the way it is described on their site. So I'm not 100% certain on that. My home IP is static (or very rarely changes).

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      A service such as NO-IP would be capable of handling a dynamic IP for VPN service. Not an ideal solution but it is possible.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said:

                        It appears to operate in a similar fashion to P2P is the way it is described on their site. So I'm not 100% certain on that. My home IP is static (or very rarely changes).

                        That would still require the controller node to have a static IP. That's how Pertino and Hamachi work, they host the necessarily static portion.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by dafyre

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Learning the tech bits is good, learning the full operational mindset associated is better. Run it like a business rather than like a lab (even though it is a lab.)
                          http://www.smbitjournal.com/2015/06/make-your-business-jealous/

                          This is fine and I agree, when personal budget allows.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said:

                            A service such as NO-IP would be capable of handling a dynamic IP for VPN service. Not an ideal solution but it is possible.

                            I haven't had to set up an IP address for anything to work. I set up my controller and made the network (I can share shell scripts if you are interested) and then told my clients to join the network and it figured everything out.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said:

                              A service such as NO-IP would be capable of handling a dynamic IP for VPN service. Not an ideal solution but it is possible.

                              that probably would work

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                              • W
                                WingCreative
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                                Setting up Owncloud and/or Pydio is a good way to get comfortable configuring a private cloud. I prefer Pydio myself but Owncloud seems more commonly deployed.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Important to note that many end users call these clouds. But there is no cloud technology or approach in Pydio or ownCloud. There are just fileservers, nothing cloud about them.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Many IT people know what is meant, but many do not. ownCloud having Cloud in their name is very confusing, of course. But it is just a normal application. The Cloud bit is just marketing.

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                                    • MattSpellerM
                                      MattSpeller
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                                      Try and find something that's fun or interesting and furthers your career!

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                                      • W
                                        WingCreative @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Important to note that many end users call these clouds. But there is no cloud technology or approach in Pydio or ownCloud. There are just fileservers, nothing cloud about them.

                                        Good point - I run mine on a hosted VPS and set it up as a sort of private cloud storage, but on a local test lab they would essentially be fancy file server interfaces.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @WingCreative
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                                          @WingCreative said:

                                          Good point - I run mine on a hosted VPS and set it up as a sort of private cloud storage, but on a local test lab they would essentially be fancy file server interfaces.

                                          Even on hosted VPS, nothing cloud about the software or setup. It may or may not have the VPS running on cloud computing, but that's separate under the hood. It's no more cloud than any other software installed to a VPS on the same platform.

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                                            WingCreative @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @WingCreative said:

                                            Good point - I run mine on a hosted VPS and set it up as a sort of private cloud storage, but on a local test lab they would essentially be fancy file server interfaces.

                                            Even on hosted VPS, nothing cloud about the software or setup. It may or may not have the VPS running on cloud computing, but that's separate under the hood. It's no more cloud than any other software installed to a VPS on the same platform.

                                            You got me there - I just went on a googling spree to learn the proper definition of cloud computing and found this NIST PDF. I don't see any mention of "a single VM running some software that makes serving files easier" so I am willing to admit that my use of the "private cloud" term may have been buzzwordy 😄

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