RAID Controllers - Stupidly Expensive for what they are
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So the reasons why there aren't consumer RAID cards is because.... consumers don't need them. Hardware RAID is an enterprise need. Oh sure some consumer needs one but that is so rare that you can't build a product around it. What would this consumer with hardware RAID needs look like? For hardware RAID to be valuable you need a fair number of drive bays that are hot swap, you need monitoring tools, etc. It's not a casual thing in a consumer world.
Consumers have access to software RAID which is faster and "free". Very little need to go beyond that and to keep prices down you would need huge volume.
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What is the consumer use case that you are considering?
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In Home SAN system possibly, migrating all of my physical DVD / Blurays and Music to it, and wiring up the house.
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Possibly local storage for my XenServer Spinning Rust VM's as well.
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@DustinB3403 said:
In Home SAN system possibly, migrating all of my physical DVD / Blurays and Music to it, and wiring up the house.
Why not use software RAID for that? Even a NAS device that you were to buy would be doing software RAID.
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@DustinB3403 said:
Possibly local storage for my XenServer Spinning Rust VM's as well.
Same here. For a lab to learn about how XS would work with hardware RAID, sure. But in a case like that you would need the enterprise gear because that is what you are testing. If you are doing anything short of learning about that specific use case, why not software RAID again?
In many cases, especially enterprise ones, XS would be on software RAID.
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Save yourself a ton of money and build a SAM-SD - it could all be Software RAID.
@scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?
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@Dashrender said:
Save yourself a ton of money and build a SAM-SD - it could all be Software RAID.
@scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?
I went looking for the SAM-SD wiki that John had setup to suggest on this thread. Sadly it doesn't seem to exist anymore.
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You could also look on ebay or craigslist for an inexpensive used server. You can get a decent HP or Dell server for a few hundred dollars.
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
Save yourself a ton of money and build a SAM-SD - it could all be Software RAID.
@scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?
I went looking for the SAM-SD wiki that John had setup to suggest on this thread. Sadly it doesn't seem to exist anymore.
It was never filled with enough info to be useful. We need to get an official one up and running sometime soon. Just need a web designer, argh.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
Save yourself a ton of money and build a SAM-SD - it could all be Software RAID.
@scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?
I went looking for the SAM-SD wiki that John had setup to suggest on this thread. Sadly it doesn't seem to exist anymore.
It was never filled with enough info to be useful. We need to get an official one up and running sometime soon. Just need a web designer, argh.
Some kind of Wiki or other website for things like that would be awesome to see attached to ML. Similar (maybe exactly) like what SW has.
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That's a potential idea although user management integration would be difficult. What kind of materials are you thinking should exist in a general purpose ML wiki?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?
That would depend heavily on the kind of SAM-SD that you want. a FreeBSD system would be relatively easy. A Linux one moderate. A Windows one ill-advised.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
Save yourself a ton of money and build a SAM-SD - it could all be Software RAID.
@scottalanmiller did you get get the SAM-SD to run from a SD card?
I went looking for the SAM-SD wiki that John had setup to suggest on this thread. Sadly it doesn't seem to exist anymore.
It was never filled with enough info to be useful. We need to get an official one up and running sometime soon. Just need a web designer, argh.
I do a lot with Drupal. I might be able to build something.
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@mlnews said:
That's a potential idea although user management integration would be difficult. What kind of materials are you thinking should exist in a general purpose ML wiki?
A general How-To that anyone who finds something interesting that they want to make sure they know where they can find it again in the future.
As for the SAM-SD - a Linux or FreeBSD, not sure why anyone would want a Windows one.
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@Dashrender said:
not sure why anyone would want a Windows one.
SMB3, for example? DFS? ReFS? Management as part of the existing Windows infrastructure.
If you wonder why anyone would want Windows here, do you feel that Windows doesn't make sense ever or just for file servers?
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@Dashrender said:
A general How-To that anyone who finds something interesting that they want to make sure they know where they can find it again in the future.
Other than formatting difficulties, any reason that the forum does not work for that as it is? What would having another platform add to that?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
not sure why anyone would want a Windows one.
SMB3, for example? DFS? ReFS? Management as part of the existing Windows infrastructure.
If you wonder why anyone would want Windows here, do you feel that Windows doesn't make sense ever or just for file servers?
Just for remote storage - Is SMB3 really getting any traction?
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@Dashrender said:
Just for remote storage - Is SMB3 really getting any traction?
It's bit in the HyperV space for backing HyperV. It's got some benefits for normal users. I think that basically everyone on Windows file servers is on it now (that are on current Windows Servers.)
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Search is horrible here, perhaps tagging will help with sorting things.
