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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @coliver
      last edited by Dashrender

      @coliver said:

      @IT-ADMIN http://www.fop2.com/

      It is just an operators panel. But it can help you determine the call flow without having certain phones plugged in or going through the asterisk CLI.

      Considering the features of the Mitel Operator panel, I found FOP2 to be really wanting. That and the fact that is really looks old school to me. I found a different panel that could be used with FreePBX, but that was in the last days before I bailed on FreePBX for my install.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        also i checked the module admin and i found that webRTC module is enabled

        did you follow this guide to set it up?
        http://wiki.freepbx.org/display/F2/WebRTC+Phone-UCP

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        • IT-ADMINI
          IT-ADMIN
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          i followed but i stuck in certificate authority, i don't know how to upload it ??

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
            last edited by

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            what do you mean by FOP2

            It's a popular add on application that adds a new interface to the PBX. We use it here.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              Considering the features of the Mitel Operator panel, I found FOP to be really wanting. That and the fact that is really looks old school to me. I found a different panel that could be used with FreePBX, but that was in the last days before I bailed on FreePBX for my install.

              FOP2 is not related to FOP. Two different products. FOP is the free built in one. FOP2 is a commercial add on.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                last edited by Dashrender

                @scottalanmiller said:

                FOP2 is not related to FOP. Two different products. FOP is the free built in one. FOP2 is a commercial add on.

                I've updated my post to indicate FOP2, which is what I was/am talking about. It lacks the polish that the Mitel console has, as well as a lot of functionality.

                That said, for what it is, and the cost (what a SUPER CHEAP?) it's pretty good. and it's great when you've come from having nothing. But when you've come from something like the Mitel console, there is a ton of heartache.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  FOP2 is not related to FOP. Two different products. FOP is the free built in one. FOP2 is a commercial add on.

                  I've updated my post to indicate FOP2, which is what I was/am talking about. It lacks the polish that the Mitel console has, as well as a lot of functionality.

                  That said, for what it is, and the cost (what a few hundred dollars?) it's pretty good. and it's great when you've come from having nothing. But when you've come from something like the Mitel console, there is a ton of heartache.

                  I believe that the FOP2 is $40.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    FOP2 is not related to FOP. Two different products. FOP is the free built in one. FOP2 is a commercial add on.

                    I've updated my post to indicate FOP2, which is what I was/am talking about. It lacks the polish that the Mitel console has, as well as a lot of functionality.

                    That said, for what it is, and the cost (what a SUPER CHEAP?) it's pretty good. and it's great when you've come from having nothing. But when you've come from something like the Mitel console, there is a ton of heartache.

                    Have you looked at iSymphony? A bit more complex and expensive then FOP2 but has a few more features.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      FOP2 is not related to FOP. Two different products. FOP is the free built in one. FOP2 is a commercial add on.

                      I've updated my post to indicate FOP2, which is what I was/am talking about. It lacks the polish that the Mitel console has, as well as a lot of functionality.

                      That said, for what it is, and the cost (what a SUPER CHEAP?) it's pretty good. and it's great when you've come from having nothing. But when you've come from something like the Mitel console, there is a ton of heartache.

                      Have you looked at iSymphony? A bit more complex and expensive then FOP2 but has a few more features.

                      Thanks, that's what I found. I didn't go anywhere with it.. as I mentioned I killed the FreePBX implementation before I could use iSymphony. Which by the way, at least on their website looks much more polished.

                      If it takes more money to get a better product, I'm totally fine with it. If the FOP2 guys need to charge $500 for an unlimited license instead of $40 so they could have either more dedicated time to it, or hire more people, I can't imagine that it wouldn't still sell like hotcakes.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        You might be surprised. Or maybe I would be. But since the primary market for FOP2 is people who are implementing a free PBX, even if it is a great one that makes a lot of sense, the number of companies willing to pay $500 for a new operator interface might be low.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
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                          what do you think about trixbox ??

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            i just see something about it and it looks intersting

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              as far as i can see it is freePBX+CRM

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                                last edited by

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                what do you think about trixbox ??

                                Old. Elastix was its spiritual replacement. We used Trixbox a decade ago and it was fine while it was still current and active. Today, Elastix and FreePBX are the only games in town of that nature.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  what do you think about trixbox ??

                                  Don't touch trixbox with an 10 meter pole... It really isn't a good piece of software. We currently have one trixbox server I was in the process of updating to FreePBX. The interface has basically killed itself and now it won't update any of the core files correctly... although it does try to. So I need to dig in and do it by hand for the most part, fixing the issues it created and then adding the new users or make the necessary changes.

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                                  • IT-ADMINI
                                    IT-ADMIN
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                                    then i will not touch it,

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                                      IT-ADMIN
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                                      i thought that it has some extrat features than freePBX like CRM

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        i thought that it has some extrat features than freePBX like CRM

                                        If you are interested in some of those feature take a look at Elastix (http://www.elastix.org/index.php/en/)

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          i thought that it has some extrat features than freePBX like CRM

                                          Sure, and so does Elastix. All of those extra features went to Elastix which is why Elastix is the spiritual successor. It was basically an exact copy of TrixBox.

                                          However, these things are negatives. Having a CRM running on your PBX is a very bad idea. I hate that Elastix includes that. We always strip it out.

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                                          • IT-ADMINI
                                            IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            i thought that it has some extrat features than freePBX like CRM

                                            Sure, and so does Elastix. All of those extra features went to Elastix which is why Elastix is the spiritual successor. It was basically an exact copy of TrixBox.

                                            However, these things are negatives. Having a CRM running on your PBX is a very bad idea. I hate that Elastix includes that. We always strip it out.

                                            oh i see what you mean, so it is better to separate btw pbx and CRM

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