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    Server 2012 R2 Storage Spaces versus Hardware RAID, how do you decide?

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    • creaytC
      creayt @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      From these numbers, the hardware RAID is coming back with better IOPS, better throughput and lower latency!

      The hardware RAID is a 6 drive OBR10, and this is a read test, so it's actually losing pretty hard with the exception of a few latency anomalies ( average is 0 for both ), no? Reading from 6 drives versus 4. I haven't run the write tests yet.

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      • creaytC
        creayt @MattSpeller
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        @MattSpeller said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        I recently got an offer to do this full time for a living. Had to turn it down, though.

        Is there a way to apprentice for this kind of thing? I need beautiful bleeding edge hardware in my life very badly.

        So do I, so do I.

        I was so close to pulling the trigger on an MSI Stealth Pro w/ a 5th-gen i7 quad last night but then I remembered what you said about Skylake being around the corner. This Radeon 5750 running 3 1440p monitors bullshit is really killing my experience.

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @creayt
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          @creayt That'd be a nice machine regardless

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          • creaytC
            creayt @MattSpeller
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            @MattSpeller said:

            @creayt That'd be a nice machine regardless

            Mostly while I become legit w/ system building and overclocking I want a large-screen laptop that can drive 3 screens at 60Hz, so that one seemed excellent for the price ( $1699 ). But it just seems self-indulgent to pick up a semi-cutting-edge-ish laptop like that when the new proc generation is less than 2 months away. Especially if they reduce heat substantially, this is a thin 17" workstation that probably gets pretty hot, so probably worth the wait twice over. It's running an GTX 970M 3GB I think, which w/ the quad core proc in that thin of a shell probably gets pretty steamy.

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            • creaytC
              creayt @scottalanmiller
              last edited by creayt

              @scottalanmiller said:

              From these numbers, the hardware RAID is coming back with better IOPS, better throughput and lower latency!

              Taking the threads up past the default 2 to 16 ( it's a dual proc octocore so I chose 16, correct me if that's a poor choice ) gets the numbers almost exactly the same interestingly. Except, the hardware RAID had a latency that was about 50% worse than the worst latencey the Space had, and again this is 6 drives ( hardware ) versus 4.

              16thread.png

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @creayt
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                @creayt metal coffee mug + the fan blowing hot air out the side... 😉

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                • creaytC
                  creayt
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                  Running Crystals then will do some write IO tests.

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                  • creaytC
                    creayt
                    last edited by creayt

                    The Storage Space seemed to beat the hardware in Crystal when considering disk quantity.

                    crushy.jpg

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                    • creaytC
                      creayt
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                      Hardware RAID appears to be walloping the Space w/ the SQLIO tool for write testing so far. Results to follow.

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                      • creaytC
                        creayt
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                        8 thread writes @ 8k
                        8threadwrite8k.png

                        16 thread writes @ 64k
                        16threadwrite64k.png

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                        • creaytC
                          creayt
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                          Ok, who dares me to install 2012 on OBR ZERO just to run some Crystal and see what she can do?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            Oh I see, different drive config.

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                            • ?
                              A Former User @MattSpeller
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                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              I recently got an offer to do this full time for a living. Had to turn it down, though.

                              Is there a way to apprentice for this kind of thing? I need beautiful bleeding edge hardware in my life very badly.

                              It doesn't pay much. I did it as a contract job for a while. We did high end (many times custom) servers for GE, Coast Guard, Mining Companies, food industry etc. Back then (2007 or 2008). We were doing servers with 48-100 cores, double that thread with hyperthreading. And around 512gb ram. Some SSDs stuff too though the ssds were a bit unreliable back then.

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                              • creaytC
                                creayt
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                                So the RAID controller had a subtle, ambiguous setting available to switch it from PCIe 2 mode to PCIe 3 mode ( though it was labeled something more cryptic ). Simply enabling it made it jump from this:

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                                to this:

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                                Thank god for iDRACs.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  That's awesome, good testing.

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                                  • creaytC
                                    creayt
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                                    The RAID card is PCIe. Anyone familiar w/

                                    "Memory Mapped I/O above 4GB" as seen in the pic below? Tempted to enable it because it seems like it would only benefit the RAID ( the only PCIe device in the server ).

                                    pcie.png

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                                    • creaytC
                                      creayt
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                                      Interestingly, the Dell manual for the R620 says that the feature is enabled by default but it's disabled on mine ( which was a refub, so it could've been the previous owner or the Hosting company making guesses during initial set up ).

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                                      • creaytC
                                        creayt
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                                        http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2050443

                                        Looks like it can cause issues w/ ESX/ESXi, so if the box was used as a v-farm that could've been why.

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                                        • creaytC
                                          creayt
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                                          Split that OBR10 into 2 Raid 0s, here's what each of them achieves now. That RAID tho.

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                                          • NashBrydgesN
                                            NashBrydges @creayt
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                                            @creayt said in Server 2012 R2 Storage Spaces versus Hardware RAID, how do you decide?:

                                            So the RAID controller had a subtle, ambiguous setting available to switch it from PCIe 2 mode to PCIe 3 mode ( though it was labeled something more cryptic ). Simply enabling it made it jump from this:

                                            Thank god for iDRACs.

                                            Which setting was it that you changed from what to what?

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