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    Server 2012 R2 Storage Spaces versus Hardware RAID, how do you decide?

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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller
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      This thread is giving me a hardware stiffy, I need to figure out how to do this for a living.

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      • creaytC
        creayt
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        Crystal benchmarks coming shortly.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @creayt
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          @creayt said:

          The IOs/sec seems terrible with both options, I think these drives are supposed to do 100,000 EACH and both benchmarks pull less than 50,000. That said, I don't fully grasp IOPS yet or how to correctly test it so this may just be my being ignorant at the moment.

          IOPS are operations and not all operations are equal.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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            @MattSpeller said:

            This thread is giving me a hardware stiffy, I need to figure out how to do this for a living.

            I recently got an offer to do this full time for a living. Had to turn it down, though.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @creayt
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              @creayt said:

              The IOs/sec seems terrible with both options, I think these drives are supposed to do 100,000 EACH and both benchmarks pull less than 50,000.

              You're right there, have you tried a larger test file?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                From these numbers, the hardware RAID is coming back with better IOPS, better throughput and lower latency!

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  I recently got an offer to do this full time for a living. Had to turn it down, though.

                  Is there a way to apprentice for this kind of thing? I need beautiful bleeding edge hardware in my life very badly.

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                  • creaytC
                    creayt @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    From these numbers, the hardware RAID is coming back with better IOPS, better throughput and lower latency!

                    The hardware RAID is a 6 drive OBR10, and this is a read test, so it's actually losing pretty hard with the exception of a few latency anomalies ( average is 0 for both ), no? Reading from 6 drives versus 4. I haven't run the write tests yet.

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                    • creaytC
                      creayt @MattSpeller
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                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      I recently got an offer to do this full time for a living. Had to turn it down, though.

                      Is there a way to apprentice for this kind of thing? I need beautiful bleeding edge hardware in my life very badly.

                      So do I, so do I.

                      I was so close to pulling the trigger on an MSI Stealth Pro w/ a 5th-gen i7 quad last night but then I remembered what you said about Skylake being around the corner. This Radeon 5750 running 3 1440p monitors bullshit is really killing my experience.

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @creayt
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                        @creayt That'd be a nice machine regardless

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                        • creaytC
                          creayt @MattSpeller
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                          @MattSpeller said:

                          @creayt That'd be a nice machine regardless

                          Mostly while I become legit w/ system building and overclocking I want a large-screen laptop that can drive 3 screens at 60Hz, so that one seemed excellent for the price ( $1699 ). But it just seems self-indulgent to pick up a semi-cutting-edge-ish laptop like that when the new proc generation is less than 2 months away. Especially if they reduce heat substantially, this is a thin 17" workstation that probably gets pretty hot, so probably worth the wait twice over. It's running an GTX 970M 3GB I think, which w/ the quad core proc in that thin of a shell probably gets pretty steamy.

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                          • creaytC
                            creayt @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            From these numbers, the hardware RAID is coming back with better IOPS, better throughput and lower latency!

                            Taking the threads up past the default 2 to 16 ( it's a dual proc octocore so I chose 16, correct me if that's a poor choice ) gets the numbers almost exactly the same interestingly. Except, the hardware RAID had a latency that was about 50% worse than the worst latencey the Space had, and again this is 6 drives ( hardware ) versus 4.

                            16thread.png

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                            • MattSpellerM
                              MattSpeller @creayt
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                              @creayt metal coffee mug + the fan blowing hot air out the side... 😉

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                              • creaytC
                                creayt
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                                Running Crystals then will do some write IO tests.

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                                • creaytC
                                  creayt
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                                  The Storage Space seemed to beat the hardware in Crystal when considering disk quantity.

                                  crushy.jpg

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                                  • creaytC
                                    creayt
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                                    Hardware RAID appears to be walloping the Space w/ the SQLIO tool for write testing so far. Results to follow.

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                                    • creaytC
                                      creayt
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                                      8 thread writes @ 8k
                                      8threadwrite8k.png

                                      16 thread writes @ 64k
                                      16threadwrite64k.png

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                                      • creaytC
                                        creayt
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                                        Ok, who dares me to install 2012 on OBR ZERO just to run some Crystal and see what she can do?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Oh I see, different drive config.

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                                            A Former User @MattSpeller
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                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            I recently got an offer to do this full time for a living. Had to turn it down, though.

                                            Is there a way to apprentice for this kind of thing? I need beautiful bleeding edge hardware in my life very badly.

                                            It doesn't pay much. I did it as a contract job for a while. We did high end (many times custom) servers for GE, Coast Guard, Mining Companies, food industry etc. Back then (2007 or 2008). We were doing servers with 48-100 cores, double that thread with hyperthreading. And around 512gb ram. Some SSDs stuff too though the ssds were a bit unreliable back then.

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