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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @A Former User
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      @thecreativeone91 said:

      @hobbit666 said:

      Have you looked at the manufactures tools? Sure i've seen erase options for SSD?

      It has a secure erase option in the BIOS. It took all of 30 seconds to do that.

      If that was designed for SSD, then what it likely does is the same as the hdparam command that sets voltage on all the address spaces to reset them.

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        A Former User @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said:

        @thecreativeone91 said:

        @hobbit666 said:

        Have you looked at the manufactures tools? Sure i've seen erase options for SSD?

        It has a secure erase option in the BIOS. It took all of 30 seconds to do that.

        If that was designed for SSD, then what it likely does is the same as the hdparam command that sets voltage on all the address spaces to reset them.

        It was. It's an M.2 SSD that came in the laptop.

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          Carnival Boy @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said:

          you have no control over where the writes are really going with an SSD.

          Maybe I'm not explaining myself very well. If I ask an SSD to save 100gb of data and it is only a 100gb drive, then it will have to fill the drive and overwrite everything that was previously on the drive. Because it has nowhere else it can store the data.

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          • ?
            A Former User @Carnival Boy
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            @Carnival-Boy said:

            @JaredBusch said:

            you have no control over where the writes are really going with an SSD.

            Maybe I'm not explaining myself very well. If I ask an SSD to save 100gb of data and it is only a 100gb drive, then it will have to fill the drive and overwrite everything that was previously on the drive. Because it has nowhere else it can store the data.

            But I don't think you need to do that with SSDs. SSDs aren't physical platters and are more akin to EEPROMs (not the same of course) than HDDs meaning you could just reset them, there's nothing to be left behind as it's a chip not a magnetic device.

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              A Former User @Deleted74295
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              @Breffni-Potter said:

              I think that after much debate, the only truly safe conclusion for an SSD was total destruction.

              Where did you hear that?

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @Carnival Boy
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                @Carnival-Boy said:

                @JaredBusch said:

                you have no control over where the writes are really going with an SSD.

                Maybe I'm not explaining myself very well. If I ask an SSD to save 100gb of data and it is only a 100gb drive, then it will have to fill the drive and overwrite everything that was previously on the drive. Because it has nowhere else it can store the data.

                Actualy, it DOES have space to write to that you have no access to. All SSD do.

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                • Deleted74295D
                  Deleted74295 Banned @A Former User
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                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                  @Breffni-Potter said:

                  I think that after much debate, the only truly safe conclusion for an SSD was total destruction.

                  Where did you hear that?

                  Spent ages trawling through different forums, articles, a lot of them boiled down to
                  "We don't know if the data is truly gone, so just take a hammer and nail through the storage chips to be safe"

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
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                    This is one article I read on the subject in the past.

                    https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SSD_Secure_Erase

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
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                      The basic summary is that if the manufacturer gives you sufficient details to know how the secure erase is performed on their hardware then you can know if it is effective. If they do not, destroying the device is the only way to be certain.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        Actually, there is another way.

                        If you use full disk encryption from day one, once you delete the encryption key you don't have to worry about it.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          Actually, there is another way.

                          If you use full disk encryption from day one, once you delete the encryption key you don't have to worry about it.

                          Any encryption can be broken. That is why the article I linked talks about getting verified information from the vendor.

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