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      garak0410
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      Good discussion guys! I am about to present the Cable option to management today...

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        PSX_Defector @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        And remember the time period that we are talking, HDSL, for example, had products on the market in 1993 and was ratified in 1994 and was up to 2Mb/s up. That's a long time ago.

        Those services were NOT on the market anywhere in 2000. Let alone in 1994.

        Your times are off as well.

        G.HDSL was sold by Verizon ~2002, a little earlier if I recall. I bought one because I wanted faster upload speed versus the frame relay ADSL that was prevalent in VZ West aka GTE. They also ran very hot ATM based g.lite service at the time, but I couldn't flip to it because there wasn't a DSLAM available for me to hop into. I could get close to 768K up with ADSL, G.HDSL gave me a solid 2Mbps. Of course, I was one of the beta testers in DeKalb, IL for GTE's ADSL product at the time in 1997. Holy shit it was cool to have 256Kbps/64Kbps at the time. When I moved to Dallas, I was third on the list to get GTE's ADSL in the town it rolled out to first in 1998. Guy who put it in took a day to get things right, with me testing as well on the loop.

        SBC didn't bother with lots of that stuff, only for hi-cap, where they been using SDSL and/or HDSL for a long time. CLECs on the other hand in MOKAT, PacBell, and especially Ameritech, went nuts on crazy bandwidth.

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          Dashrender @PSX_Defector
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          @PSX_Defector said:

          @JaredBusch said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          And remember the time period that we are talking, HDSL, for example, had products on the market in 1993 and was ratified in 1994 and was up to 2Mb/s up. That's a long time ago.

          Those services were NOT on the market anywhere in 2000. Let alone in 1994.

          Your times are off as well.

          G.HDSL was sold by Verizon ~2002, a little earlier if I recall. I bought one because I wanted faster upload speed versus the frame relay ADSL that was prevalent in VZ West aka GTE. They also ran very hot ATM based g.lite service at the time, but I couldn't flip to it because there wasn't a DSLAM available for me to hop into. I could get close to 768K up with ADSL, G.HDSL gave me a solid 2Mbps. Of course, I was one of the beta testers in DeKalb, IL for GTE's ADSL product at the time in 1997. Holy shit it was cool to have 256Kbps/64Kbps at the time. When I moved to Dallas, I was third on the list to get GTE's ADSL in the town it rolled out to first in 1998. Guy who put it in took a day to get things right, with me testing as well on the loop.

          SBC didn't bother with lots of that stuff, only for hi-cap, where they been using SDSL and/or HDSL for a long time. CLECs on the other hand in MOKAT, PacBell, and especially Ameritech, went nuts on crazy bandwidth.

          The alphabet soup there was just awesome - now back to your regularly scheduled OP.

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            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            The alphabet soup there was just awesome - now back to your regularly scheduled OP.

            Oh yes, the bells are great for that. Almost as good as the military.

            Yes some limited test market stuff was available from SBC prior to 2000. It was never sold mass market for everyone. And SDSL (as @scottalanmiller mentioned) was also sold in limited capacity prior to that also.

            Being a bleeding edge beta tester is an awesome thing, I was in the first beta group of people in southern Illinois to get Charter's internet service back in 1998. That poor installer walked into my house and was immediately confused by my NT4.0 server with dual 56k modems sharing out a home network (I was running some software router that I really wish I could remember the name of).

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              Dashrender @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              @Dashrender said:

              The alphabet soup there was just awesome - now back to your regularly scheduled OP.

              Oh yes, the bells are great for that. Almost as good as the military.

              Yes some limited test market stuff was available from SBC prior to 2000. It was never sold mass market for everyone. And SDSL (as @scottalanmiller mentioned) was also sold in limited capacity prior to that also.

              Being a bleeding edge beta tester is an awesome thing, I was in the first beta group of people in southern Illinois to get Charter's internet service back in 1998. That poor installer walked into my house and was immediately confused by my NT4.0 server with dual 56k modems sharing out a home network (I was running some software router that I really wish I could remember the name of).

              Nice, I only had one modem, but it was connected to a NT 4.0 Proxy server I setup.

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                JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                Nice, I only had one modem, but it was connected to a NT 4.0 Proxy server I setup.

                Sitting next to each other with stacks of pizza boxes (my roommate managed a dominos) and mt dew, my roommate and I flat owned people playing Starcraft on Battle.Net

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                  garak0410
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                  UPDATE - Cable provider cannot bring Coax to us so we are stick with our current provider. Going to try the fiber route...

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                    A Former User @garak0410
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                    @garak0410 said:

                    UPDATE - Cable provider cannot bring Coax to us so we are stick with our current provider. Going to try the fiber route...

                    Can't or won't?

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                      garak0410 @A Former User
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                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      @garak0410 said:

                      UPDATE - Cable provider cannot bring Coax to us so we are stick with our current provider. Going to try the fiber route...

                      Can't or won't?

                      They have no plans to extend service to our location... 😞 Even if we did pay for it...

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                        A Former User @garak0410
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                        @garak0410 said:

                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        @garak0410 said:

                        UPDATE - Cable provider cannot bring Coax to us so we are stick with our current provider. Going to try the fiber route...

                        Can't or won't?

                        They have no plans to extend service to our location... 😞 Even if we did pay for it...

                        A company doesn't want to make money? Odd.

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