Unitrends Redefines "Free" Virtual Backup

Dashrender

@Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.

How I have Veeam working:

I've created 5 storage locations, I've created 5 backup jobs, one for each day of the week. Each job points to only one of the storage locations.

Would that work for UEB?

I guess I'll have to dig into the Yellow Belt training to see how archiving works.

@Jaguar said:

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That wold only affect Snapshots/Host level backups.

Dashrender

@Jaguar said:

@Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

Wait, so the new free product won't work for stand alone, non VM servers?

Jaguar

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@Jaguar said:

@Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

Wait, Unitrends free is agentless only now? That's pointless. Wow. All this for nothing. I wouldn't even consider it now.

@Dashrender said:

@Jaguar said:

@Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

Wait, so the new free product won't work for stand alone, non VM servers?

Not only that but you don't get the granularity that you get with agent backups when using host only.

Jaguar

@Dashrender I don't think the new interface will let you set up different backup devices like that... Would have to try to see, but you may potentially be able to add multiple backup devices, but archiving is still the preferred method here.

Jaguar

@thecreativeone91 Correct, which this will provide, assuming you have paid vSphere

Dashrender

I'm more concerned that it sounds like there is no more agent for the free version. i.e. will only backup at the VM host level.

Jaguar

@thecreativeone91 You can still get the SpicyUEB version which allows agents, and the other 'original' free.

@Dashrender said:

I'm more concerned that it sounds like there is no more agent for the free version.

Exactly this is really stripped down even from the old free version if so. Unitrends Free will be much more limited.

Dashrender

What's the gain again?

Jaguar

@thecreativeone91 You can still do file level recovery.

Jaguar

@Dashrender Just "this" free version, as far as I'm aware the spicyUEB and NFR editions still provide everything they always have.

Wow. Well. this isn't even worth trying.

Jaguar

@thecreativeone91 This is giving people the ability to test out the new HTML5 interface and is still providing 1TB of FREE HyperV and VMware snapshots, if you were happy with the previous offering, it's still available

Dashrender

@thecreativeone91 said:

Wow. Well. this isn't even worth trying.

Well it is for my client, but it's not for me. I have 2 physical servers I still have to backup, and two VMWare hosts.

It's great that we can now install the UEB VM on the internal disk, and use an external NAS for the storage, but removing the ability to backup physical hosts completely - I don't get it.

I couldn't use the old versions because they required the UEB VM OS and backup storage to all be together, and since I don't have a decent speed NAS to run the UEB from, nor the internal storage on my VM host, I was left in the cold..

@Dashrender said:

I couldn't use the old versions because they required the UEB VM OS and backup storage to all be together, and since I don't have a decent speed NAS to run the UEB from, nor the internal storage on my VM host, I was left in the cold..

You can backup the old one to a NAS but by default you will have 250GB (I Believe) of storage locally as well.

Dashrender

@thecreativeone91 said:

@Dashrender said:

I couldn't use the old versions because they required the UEB VM OS and backup storage to all be together, and since I don't have a decent speed NAS to run the UEB from, nor the internal storage on my VM host, I was left in the cold..

You can backup the old one to a NAS but by default you will have 250GB (I Believe) of storage locally as well.

OH, thanks, I never got that far. While I probably do have that kind of storage available (because I needed IOS, not space) that still seems like a waste. In that case do you know, was the data stored in the 250 GB locally first, then sent to the NAS?

@Dashrender said:

OH, thanks, I never got that far. While I probably do have that kind of storage available (because I needed IOS, not space) that still seems like a waste. In that case do you know, was the data stored in the 250 GB locally first, then sent to the NAS?

I think it goes straight to the NAS but not sure, I have mine going to a NAS, but I can't say for certain it doesn't store locally first.