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    • Reid CooperR
      Reid Cooper @Minion Queen
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      @Minion-Queen said:

      I think its the total source data

      That would be awesome. Because then it is predictable and that means a lot more. If I have much data changing or I want to keep long term backups, I need a lot more backup storage than source storage.

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      • Reid CooperR
        Reid Cooper @A Former User
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        @thecreativeone91 said:

        Total storage is the storage connected to the UEB.

        That's unfortunate. Sure you can compress and dedube, but with any amount of delta rate your backups will expand considerably.

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        • ?
          A Former User @Reid Cooper
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          @Reid-Cooper said:

          @thecreativeone91 said:

          Total storage is the storage connected to the UEB.

          That's unfortunate. Sure you can compress and dedube, but with any amount of delta rate your backups will expand considerably.

          @art_of_shred would know for sure but, I am pretty sure that's how they do it.

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          • Minion QueenM
            Minion Queen Banned
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            Ok solid it IS the source Data!

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            • art_of_shredA
              art_of_shred Banned
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              It can get a little confusing, the way storage limits are referred to. If you have a "licensed" storage amount, that is calling out how much data you can protect. Your actual storage is the landing zone for backups. With a UEB, the attached storage is a landing zone, not pointing to how much data can be protected. With 1 TB, you can get as many fulls, diffs, incs, etc. that will fit in that space. You can also count on some data reduction in your favor (deduplication/compression). On the "licensed" storage amount, I believe the calculation is made for the protected data size based on a 30-day retention with Incremental Forever as the primary strategy.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Minion Queen
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                @Minion-Queen said:

                Ok solid it IS the source Data!

                For me personally - I'm teetering on the edge with this amount. Time to see what I can get rid of...

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                • Reid CooperR
                  Reid Cooper
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                  This isn't getting any more clear.

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                  • ?
                    A Former User @Reid Cooper
                    last edited by A Former User

                    @Reid-Cooper said:

                    This isn't getting any more clear.

                    Bahaha. I always thought it was like @art_of_shred said but it could have changed.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @Reid Cooper
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                      @Reid-Cooper I think I need a diagram. I thought I had understood it originally but not anymore.

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                      • Minion QueenM
                        Minion Queen Banned
                        last edited by

                        As per Ian here at the Unitrends booth it is Source data.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @Minion Queen
                          last edited by Dashrender

                          @Minion-Queen said:

                          As per Ian here at the Unitrends booth it is Source data.

                          So you have the following:

                          server 1 - 200 GB
                          Server 2 - 400 GB
                          Server 3 - 500 GB

                          with the free version you can backup:
                          1 and 2 because they = 600 GB
                          or 1 and 3 because they = 700 GB
                          or 2 and 3 because they = 900 GB,
                          but not 1, 2 and 3 because they = 1.1 TB.

                          From the sounds of it, your backup storage could be 10 TB if you wanted, allowing you to have many incrementals of the above backups.

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                          • art_of_shredA
                            art_of_shred Banned
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                            This must be a "licensing" model of control. There are 2 options:

                            1. You can attach a chunk of storage up to 1TB. It's your storage, so backup whatever you want as many times as you want, up to filling that 1TB.

                            2. You are "licensed" for 1TB, so no matter what you attach in terms of storage capacity, you can only protect up to 1TB of source data. So, if you attach 10TB of storage, you can get lots of retention for your 1TB of data protected.

                            If "source data" is the answer, it has to be option 2.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Sounds like it must be type 2.

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                              • Reid CooperR
                                Reid Cooper
                                last edited by

                                That sounds pretty positive. Maybe someone can get it installed and see the limit imposed in some manner?

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                                • art_of_shredA
                                  art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by art_of_shred

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Sounds like it must be type 2.

                                  Yes, it is option 2. Excerpt from the release article:

                                  "Unitrends Free provides hypervisor-level protection for up to 1 terabyte (TB) of data."

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                                  • Reid CooperR
                                    Reid Cooper @art_of_shred
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                                    @art_of_shred said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Sounds like it must be type 2.

                                    Yes, it is option 2. Excerpt from the release article:

                                    "Unitrends Free provides hypervisor-level protection for up to 1 terabyte (TB) of data."

                                    Okay awesome, thanks for following up with that. That's great news then. That means long retention periods for a sizable amount of data.

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                                    • StrongBadS
                                      StrongBad
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                                      Wow, very nice. Sorry that I am late to the party. Could not be here for what appears to have been the main event.

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                                      • art_of_shredA
                                        art_of_shred Banned @StrongBad
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                                        @StrongBad said:

                                        Wow, very nice. Sorry that I am late to the party. Could not be here for what appears to have been the main event.

                                        Whenever you post, I can't help reading it in the "Strong Bad" voice. Just sayin'...

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                                        • StrongBadS
                                          StrongBad @art_of_shred
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                                          @art_of_shred said:

                                          @StrongBad said:

                                          Wow, very nice. Sorry that I am late to the party. Could not be here for what appears to have been the main event.

                                          Whenever you post, I can't help reading it in the "Strong Bad" voice. Just sayin'...

                                          Checkin' my emails!

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User @Reid Cooper
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                                            @Reid-Cooper said:

                                            @art_of_shred said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Sounds like it must be type 2.

                                            Yes, it is option 2. Excerpt from the release article:

                                            "Unitrends Free provides hypervisor-level protection for up to 1 terabyte (TB) of data."

                                            Okay awesome, thanks for following up with that. That's great news then. That means long retention periods for a sizable amount of data.

                                            So, we all made it complicated by not reading the article...

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