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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      You know though, I know a lot of farmers that think that farming is nicer than IT.

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        A Former User
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        Ugh. At the county I had to write an monthly essay to "defend my time" to justify why I was working, why the should pay me, and what I accomplished during the month. It sucked. especially in months you may not have tangible results, when testing things and planning.

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        • MattSpellerM
          MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          You know though, I know a lot of farmers that think that farming is nicer than IT.

          More than once I've pondered throwing my career to the wind and going back to college.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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            @MattSpeller said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            You know though, I know a lot of farmers that think that farming is nicer than IT.

            More than once I've pondered throwing my career to the wind and going back to college.

            What good career does college help with?

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              A Former User
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              Nursing, Doctors, Accountants, CPAs, etc

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                A Former User @A Former User
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                @Hubtech Engineers of any flavor.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                  @Hubtech said:

                  Nursing, Doctors, Accountants, CPAs, etc

                  All, to me, examples of crappy jobs.

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                    A Former User
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                    oh. then nevermind. sorry to all those schmucks who have them ey!!!??

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                      @Hubtech said:

                      @Hubtech Engineers of any flavor.

                      Engineers favour degrees but do not require them. I came from an engineering background and engineers are not a "government union" like the others mentioned and can become engineers without a degree. At least in the US, there is no college requirement for engineering.

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                        A Former User @A Former User
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                        @Hubtech said:

                        oh. then nevermind. sorry to all those schmucks who have them ey!!!??

                        Man, Why do I go to the doctor then? Why have an engineer spec a house?

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                          A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @Hubtech said:

                          @Hubtech Engineers of any flavor.

                          Engineers favour degrees but do not require them. I came from an engineering background and engineers are not a "government union" like the others mentioned and can become engineers without a degree. At least in the US, there is no college requirement for engineering.

                          Most states require Civil Engineers to have a bachelors degree and pass state certification.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                            @Hubtech said:

                            oh. then nevermind. sorry to all those schmucks who have them ey!!!??

                            Well my whole point was what GOOD job requires a degree? Tons of bad jobs require a degree - basically all ones where you are forced to be a "union" worker with the government protecting your job because the job fails to stand on its own in the US.

                            Nursing does not require a degree, BTW, it is only because of the massive surplus of nurses out of work and getting degrees to make themselves more employable have created a market where you "need" a degree just because there is little way to differentiate yourself from others in your field.

                            That's one of the things that make all of these jobs suck - they are all "wellfare" jobs. Basically you buy a degree and the government "owes" you a job by way of guaranteeing only people who paid to get the degree get the limited jobs. These jobs lack the fulfillment that what, to me, any good job would offer.

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                              MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              What good career does college help with?

                              At some point, the definition of good needs to be explored. While I have a good career by most measures, I find myself looking for something I'm passionate about. I seem to be unable to get to that point in IT, despite the fact that I deeply enjoy a lot of parts of it. So I need to think carefully about how to find in IT what I'm passionate about or explore new careers that might generate that passion as well.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                @Hubtech said:

                                oh. then nevermind. sorry to all those schmucks who have them ey!!!??

                                Man, Why do I go to the doctor then? Why have an engineer spec a house?

                                Because of government regulations. Without them, would you? When is the last time you talked to a doctor and felt that they were more qualified than you to diagnose what was wrong?

                                Doctors are a great example - they aren't, by and large, doing a good job. The government has to make a union like situation where the federal government takes away your rights to medicine and healthcare unless you get it through their approved channels. Doctors don't earn their keep.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Engineers favour degrees but do not require them. I came from an engineering background and engineers are not a "government union" like the others mentioned and can become engineers without a degree. At least in the US, there is no college requirement for engineering.

                                  You're smokin' crack.

                                  I do not know a single engineer that has not been through the engineering program at 4 year school.

                                  Used to could? Sure, but not for 30 years barring the exception to prove the rule as it is said.

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                                    A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Doctors are a great example - they aren't, by and large, doing a good job.

                                    What doctors are you seeing? mine are great.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      Most states require Civil Engineers to have a bachelors degree and pass state certification.

                                      Civil, yes. Which is only one of the vast array of engineering degrees and categories.

                                      Manufacturing, industrial, chemical, mechanical, automotive, aeronautic, electrical, computer, manufacturing systems, etc. do not require degrees.

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                                      • MattSpellerM
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        When is the last time you talked to a doctor and felt that they were more qualified than you to diagnose what was wrong?

                                        Uh... every time I go to a doctor. Isn't that how Jobs died?
                                        By most measures Canada does not even get the best ones here because we don't pay them enough.

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                                          A Former User
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                                          oh, and how the flying hell does this have anything to do with being disconnected? I wish you the best in your disconnection from IT. I did it for 7 days on my honeymoon 2 years ago. The first day or two kind of sucked, but after that i was able to enjoy myself! I just let my clients know two months ahead of time that i was going to be gone, that they should send me an email if an emergency happened, and that i'd check my email the day i got off of the ship. I had a local fella on queue and forwarded my email to him to discern "emergency" status. Didn't have any emergencies!

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                                            A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            Nursing does not require a degree

                                            This varies by state. These are state licenses.

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