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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Same prices here.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        I don't see prices on Flagship phones going down any time soon. They still fly off the shelves at those prices, so why would they change?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @MattSpeller
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          @MattSpeller said:

          @nadnerB said:

          Carrier crapware will be the undoing of Android.

          And vendor bloat too. I enjoy my nexus5 for it's lack there of.

          I'm not sure I buy that - HTC or Samsungs add ons, I really doubt that would release a product where their add-ons hurt their product... but the carriers, that's another story... but who knows.. I could be wrong.

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            I'm not sure I buy that - HTC or Samsungs add ons, I really doubt that would release a product where their add-ons hurt their product... but the carriers, that's another story... but who knows.. I could be wrong.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              That search proves nothing - it does not separate out the bloatware from the Vendor (in this case Samsung) vs that from the carrier.

              A normal user would still probably blame Samsung for an AT&T specific app just because it's a Samsung device. So they wouldn't search remove AT&T bloatware, they look at the phone and search for Samsung instead.

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender Fair point, some is no doubt carrier driven and I accept that most users would have difficulty telling the difference. I still don't think that makes your point though. They may not intend all their add ons to hurt their product - probably quite the reverse; it still happens however. Imagine how much faster a Galaxy S5 would be running vanilla as an example.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @MattSpeller
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                  @MattSpeller said:

                  @Dashrender Fair point, some is no doubt carrier driven and I accept that most users would have difficulty telling the difference. I still don't think that makes your point though. They may not intend all their add ons to hurt their product - probably quite the reverse; it still happens however. Imagine how much faster a Galaxy S5 would be running vanilla as an example.

                  I think its gotten to the point where the speed of devices has no baring on the usability. Earlier in the android ecosystem this made sense where running ASOP was necessary to get the best performance out of the device, because otherwise it was basically unusable, now though I'm not sure it is that much of an issue.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @coliver
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                    @coliver said:

                    @MattSpeller said:

                    @Dashrender Fair point, some is no doubt carrier driven and I accept that most users would have difficulty telling the difference. I still don't think that makes your point though. They may not intend all their add ons to hurt their product - probably quite the reverse; it still happens however. Imagine how much faster a Galaxy S5 would be running vanilla as an example.

                    I think its gotten to the point where the speed of devices has no baring on the usability. Earlier in the android ecosystem this made sense where running ASOP was necessary to get the best performance out of the device, because otherwise it was basically unusable, now though I'm not sure it is that much of an issue.

                    I agree with this.

                    But the @MattSpeller question - sometimes the new interface is better than the default one that comes with Android - definitely not always, but sometimes.

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @coliver
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                      @coliver said:

                      I think its gotten to the point where the speed of devices has no baring on the usability.

                      I don't think you really mean that, imagine saying that about the Motorola Razor!

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                      • nadnerBN
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                        Microsoft: Even cheapo Lumias to get slimmed down Windows 10: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/09/windows_10_4_cheap_phones/
                        Microsoft is working to get Windows 10 working on devices with just 512MB RAM, including the Lumia 520.
                         
                        Things are looking up for my 620

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