Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS
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@AlyRagab said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
Do i need to work with something like "OpenSIPs" as a load balancer instead of the AWS NLB ?
Yes and no. You need everything top to bottom to be changed. OpenSIP itself can't fix the situation, because Asterisk has no mechanism to deal with load balanced traffic. There is a company that has tried to make something to do this, but to do it they had to build a massive application stack because there's nothing on the market that can do what is needed, and they needed to modify Asterisk to do it, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
@AlyRagab said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
Do i need to work with something like "OpenSIPs" as a load balancer instead of the AWS NLB ?
Yes and no. You need everything top to bottom to be changed. OpenSIP itself can't fix the situation, because Asterisk has no mechanism to deal with load balanced traffic. There is a company that has tried to make something to do this, but to do it they had to build a massive application stack because there's nothing on the market that can do what is needed, and they needed to modify Asterisk to do it, too.
Kamilio would be the solution here.
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@JaredBusch said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
@scottalanmiller said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
@AlyRagab said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
Do i need to work with something like "OpenSIPs" as a load balancer instead of the AWS NLB ?
Yes and no. You need everything top to bottom to be changed. OpenSIP itself can't fix the situation, because Asterisk has no mechanism to deal with load balanced traffic. There is a company that has tried to make something to do this, but to do it they had to build a massive application stack because there's nothing on the market that can do what is needed, and they needed to modify Asterisk to do it, too.
Kamilio would be the solution here.
https://www.kamailio.org/Right, but INSTEAD of Asterisk not in front of it. That's the key. Asterisk isn't part of any solution here.
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Thanks @scottalanmiller , @JaredBusch for this good discussion,
Actually it is a POC level of environment. I am convinced already that Asterisk "As a legacy app" is so difficult to make it cloud native kind of application.
For me i am away from the VoIP field since more than 4 years now, so is there any other complete solution that can be scaled and hosted in AWS ?.Thanks
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@AlyRagab said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
Thanks @scottalanmiller , @JaredBusch for this good discussion,
Actually it is a POC level of environment. I am convinced already that Asterisk "As a legacy app" is so difficult to make it cloud native kind of application.
For me i am away from the VoIP field since more than 4 years now, so is there any other complete solution that can be scaled and hosted in AWS ?.Thanks
Are you trying to recreate Twilio?
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@AlyRagab Look at Ezuce/SipxCom. They are able to scale. We used to resell it but got away form it a few years ago. Based on FreeSwitch.
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@scottalanmiller said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
You'd never use one of the viable Asterisk distros like FreePBX or VitalPBX, let alone an old, dead one like Elastix.Thought a few people were using FreePBX/VitalPBX here ?
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@hobbit666 said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
@scottalanmiller said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
You'd never use one of the viable Asterisk distros like FreePBX or VitalPBX, let alone an old, dead one like Elastix.Thought a few people were using FreePBX/VitalPBX here ?
I think he meant in the scale-as-needed cloud-ready kind of way.
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@hobbit666 said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
@scottalanmiller said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
You'd never use one of the viable Asterisk distros like FreePBX or VitalPBX, let alone an old, dead one like Elastix.Thought a few people were using FreePBX/VitalPBX here ?
You completely took that out of context.
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@JaredBusch said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
@hobbit666 said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
@scottalanmiller said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
You'd never use one of the viable Asterisk distros like FreePBX or VitalPBX, let alone an old, dead one like Elastix.Thought a few people were using FreePBX/VitalPBX here ?
You completely took that out of context.
Sorry my bad, went back through and I'll hold my hands up on that
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@AlyRagab said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
Thanks @scottalanmiller , @JaredBusch for this good discussion,
Actually it is a POC level of environment. I am convinced already that Asterisk "As a legacy app" is so difficult to make it cloud native kind of application.
For me i am away from the VoIP field since more than 4 years now, so is there any other complete solution that can be scaled and hosted in AWS ?.Thanks
Asterisk is totally awesome and in no way legacy. It's a workload that has no need for "cloudification." It's not that Asterisk is legacy here, it's that cloud isn't a panacea and this is a great example of why.
You have to have a need to scale before there's a reason to create the tech. VoIP isn't something that has any purpose to this kind of scaling in the first place 99% of the time.
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@hobbit666 said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
@scottalanmiller said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
You'd never use one of the viable Asterisk distros like FreePBX or VitalPBX, let alone an old, dead one like Elastix.Thought a few people were using FreePBX/VitalPBX here ?
You took that out of context. You'd never use those things for what he is trying to do. The entire point was, that even those current, modern, viable "best of breed" solutions wouldn't be used for this, let alone a product like Elastix that has no place whatsoever anywhere.
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@AlyRagab said in Asterisk/Elastix setup in AWS:
Actually it is a POC level of environment. I am convinced already that Asterisk "As a legacy app" is so difficult to make it cloud native kind of application.
For me i am away from the VoIP field since more than 4 years now, so is there any other complete solution that can be scaled and hosted in AWS ?.You are getting things backwards. You should be responding with "oh, AWS and cloud are the wrong approaches for VoIP". It feels like you are driving with a solution and trying to find a goal. Cart before the horse. A POC of a fundamentally bad idea is still a bad idea and a waste of resources.
Is the idea of scaling VoIP interesting? Sure. Can you produce a use case for it? Maybe. But it'll be a stretch.
Does anyone make a complete solution? I doubt it. There's no market for it. The only places that could make use of it are enormous players who would make their own solution (e.g. Twilio) in order to do something unique. If you are the kind of shop that needs this, you can't really use someone else's product. If you need to do someone else's product, we can safely assume it's the wrong product for you.
