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@ranahashem said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
I do not think so because all kinds of free soft phones have successfully registered with the system .. Do I download it again
(l https://technologyrss.com/how-to-install-freepbx-14-and-asterisk-14-on-centos-7/)Why did you choose this insane guide? FreePBX requires no guide, just download and install. This guide took something so simple it requires no guide and made it into something complicated and broken.
As a student, two huge rules you want to learn:
- Keep in simple. Very little in IT is actually complicated or hard, but everyone wants you to think that it is. If it feels extra hard, something is probably wrong (especially for a super trivial task like doing a basic PBX install that people do every day. My VitalPBX install takes like 30 seconds and that includes installing the OS and rebooting!)
- "Don't be weird." This one is super hard to explain and even harder to put into practice. But it's really important. It means - don't go out and start doing crazy off the wall things just to be different. Stick to the basics, use industry knowledge, don't reinvent a wheel that works perfectly well for millions of other people. Like painting, you have to grok the basic rules of the industry to know when to break them. Don't start by assuming all industry knowledge is wrong and that you have to come up with everything on your own, every time. We call it "don't be weird" because to people working in IT, doing things like trying to re-create the FreePBX distro with a really old version of Asterisk on your own when trying to learn the basics of telephony instead of just downloading FreePBX and having it all "just work" is.... well, weird.
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@ranahashem said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@JaredBusch said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
I think you have no idea what you are talking about Student or not. Asterisk has zero licensing.
If you are going to use FreePBX, then you use the distribution, which includes the OS. You don't install it piecemeal.
If you are going to install only Asterisk, then you start by building the OS and dependencies required to compile it yourself.You mean, TLS doesn't need a license to activate on freepbx
Of course not. But TLS isn't what we are discussing, either. You brought TLS into the conversation and it has nothing to do with anything.
LTS means Long Term Support. It is LTS that Jared told you about.
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@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
Of course not. But TLS isn't what we are discussing, either. You brought TLS into the conversation and it has nothing to do with anything.
LTS means Long Term Support. It is LTS that Jared told you about.u mean easier , I can download Freepbx Distro on my a real server,
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@ranahashem said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
Of course not. But TLS isn't what we are discussing, either. You brought TLS into the conversation and it has nothing to do with anything.
LTS means Long Term Support. It is LTS that Jared told you about.u mean easier , I can download Freepbx Distro on my a real server,
Yes, that's what you are expected to do. It's not required, of course, but especially as a student or beginner (in general, or just in telephony) you should start with the "standard" and easy way first. If you want to do things manually or in a hard way, which is totally fine, don't start there, make sure you see things working as expected the standard, easy way first and then only get complex once you are comfortable with how things work and/or should work.
Here is the download page. FreePBX is free. Just click download. And it's the current version, not an old version. Easy, modern, up to date, free.
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Most enterprise PBXs, and FreePBX is no exception, give you the ENTIRE system. It's an "appliance." You don't download it as software and install on top of an OS as if it were an office suite or note taking application (although that's possible.) What you are expected to do is to download the "appliance" ISO and use that to do a full install. In this terminology, and appliance means that the entire system is pre-packaged for you (OS, software, configuration, etc.) So you install it the same as if it were an operating system (because it is) and voila, done. That's it. Had you installed FreePBX 15 instead of CentOS 7, you'd have been 100% done, with FreePBX up and working and fully configured in the same time it took you to install CentOS 7 and the same effort. It's literally that easy. Easier, in fact, as there are fewer additional choices to be made.
This is meant for completely non-technical people in a business to be able to be up and running in minutes. If it feels hard, in any way (for the basics), then something is amiss. It should be super, duper quick and simple to get your PBX up and running.
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@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
Most enterprise PBXs, and FreePBX is no exception, give you the ENTIRE system. It's an "appliance." You don't download it as software and install on top of an OS as if it were an office suite or note taking application (although that's possible.)
At least not any more, and not for several years... but there was a time, not THAT long ago that you did.
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@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
Most enterprise PBXs, and FreePBX is no exception, give you the ENTIRE system. It's an "appliance." You don't download it as software and install on top of an OS as if it were an office suite or note taking application (although that's possible.)
At least not any more, and not for several years... but there was a time, not THAT long ago that you did.
Pretty long ago. Like mid-2000s I'd say. That's more than a generation in IT terms.
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@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
Most enterprise PBXs, and FreePBX is no exception, give you the ENTIRE system. It's an "appliance." You don't download it as software and install on top of an OS as if it were an office suite or note taking application (although that's possible.)
At least not any more, and not for several years... but there was a time, not THAT long ago that you did.
Pretty long ago. Like mid-2000s I'd say. That's more than a generation in IT terms.
That doesn't seem right - I recall building my first FreePBX and that was only like 5-7 years max and you had to install from scripts - they didn't have a DL ISO for install.
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@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
Most enterprise PBXs, and FreePBX is no exception, give you the ENTIRE system. It's an "appliance." You don't download it as software and install on top of an OS as if it were an office suite or note taking application (although that's possible.)
At least not any more, and not for several years... but there was a time, not THAT long ago that you did.
Pretty long ago. Like mid-2000s I'd say. That's more than a generation in IT terms.
That doesn't seem right - I recall building my first FreePBX and that was only like 5-7 years max and you had to install from scripts - they didn't have a DL ISO for install.
I'm guessing you were looking at a cloud install or somewhere where the ISO could not be used. FreePBX has, I think, had it from the beginning. But Trixbox definitely had it in the mid-2000s at least. Trixbox was what Elastix essentially replaced, which was replaced by FreePBX. So we are on the third generation of ISO based installs, at least and FreePBX is not new by any stretch.
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Trixbox was nasty.
Elastix as a distro was 2006 sometime.
FreePBX as a distro was 2011.
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@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
Most enterprise PBXs, and FreePBX is no exception, give you the ENTIRE system. It's an "appliance." You don't download it as software and install on top of an OS as if it were an office suite or note taking application (although that's possible.)
At least not any more, and not for several years... but there was a time, not THAT long ago that you did.
Pretty long ago. Like mid-2000s I'd say. That's more than a generation in IT terms.
That doesn't seem right - I recall building my first FreePBX and that was only like 5-7 years max and you had to install from scripts - they didn't have a DL ISO for install.
If I had to guess, you did PBX in a Flash from Nerdvittles.
That was a scripted install on top of CentOS. But it was still nothing more manual than a single script.
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@JaredBusch said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
Most enterprise PBXs, and FreePBX is no exception, give you the ENTIRE system. It's an "appliance." You don't download it as software and install on top of an OS as if it were an office suite or note taking application (although that's possible.)
At least not any more, and not for several years... but there was a time, not THAT long ago that you did.
Pretty long ago. Like mid-2000s I'd say. That's more than a generation in IT terms.
That doesn't seem right - I recall building my first FreePBX and that was only like 5-7 years max and you had to install from scripts - they didn't have a DL ISO for install.
If I had to guess, you did PBX in a Flash from Nerdvittles.
That was a scripted install on top of CentOS. But it was still nothing more manual than a single script.
I remember that. "In a Flash", haha.
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@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@JaredBusch said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
Most enterprise PBXs, and FreePBX is no exception, give you the ENTIRE system. It's an "appliance." You don't download it as software and install on top of an OS as if it were an office suite or note taking application (although that's possible.)
At least not any more, and not for several years... but there was a time, not THAT long ago that you did.
Pretty long ago. Like mid-2000s I'd say. That's more than a generation in IT terms.
That doesn't seem right - I recall building my first FreePBX and that was only like 5-7 years max and you had to install from scripts - they didn't have a DL ISO for install.
If I had to guess, you did PBX in a Flash from Nerdvittles.
That was a scripted install on top of CentOS. But it was still nothing more manual than a single script.
I remember that. "In a Flash", haha.
Compared to the manual processes that existed before then, it was good.
In the end I had issues with the crap that the system pre-setup. It was all at the novice or hobbyist. Not business.
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@JaredBusch said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@JaredBusch said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@Dashrender said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
@scottalanmiller said in linphone: remove/hide “default identity”:
Most enterprise PBXs, and FreePBX is no exception, give you the ENTIRE system. It's an "appliance." You don't download it as software and install on top of an OS as if it were an office suite or note taking application (although that's possible.)
At least not any more, and not for several years... but there was a time, not THAT long ago that you did.
Pretty long ago. Like mid-2000s I'd say. That's more than a generation in IT terms.
That doesn't seem right - I recall building my first FreePBX and that was only like 5-7 years max and you had to install from scripts - they didn't have a DL ISO for install.
If I had to guess, you did PBX in a Flash from Nerdvittles.
That was a scripted install on top of CentOS. But it was still nothing more manual than a single script.
I remember that. "In a Flash", haha.
Compared to the manual processes that existed before then, it was good.
In the end I had issues with the crap that the system pre-setup. It was all at the novice or hobbyist. Not business.
Definitely, it was always very hokey. Way, way too many gizmos and whatevers and way too little "feels enterprise stable."
