Microsoft Teams
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Teams requires the meeting owner to attend to make make the meeting happen (at least we haven't found a way around this yet). Zoom does not have this requirement.
Said another way - in a Zoom meeting, you have the option "Enable join before host" This allows the meeting to happen with or without the person who scheduled it.This was a problem for us, as we want schedulers to schedule meetings for their bosses (providers) and the schedule not be involved in the meeting at all. Luckily we found that if you have calendar delegation rights to the person who will be in the meeting, though Outlook, you can schedule a Teams meeting on their behalf.
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Teams allows one person to have multiple overlapping meetings, even better, those meetings can happen at the same time. It's a little convoluted to get going because the meeting owner has to start each meeting. Here is how it can be done.
Meeting 1 - host joins meeting, others join meeting, host leaves
Meeting 2 - host joins meeting, others join, host leavesNow the host is free to join either meeting at will. Additionally, more people can come and go from the meeting as desired.
Zoom does not allow this at all. A host can schedule overlapping meetings, but a host is only allowed one meeting to happen at a time. Additionally, a guest to a meeting can minorly hold hostage the host's ability to start another meeting by not leaving the meeting. I say minorly because the host can log into their meeting and kick that guest out of the meeting, then go back and try again to start their next meeting.
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@Dashrender said in Microsoft Teams:
Teams requires the meeting owner to attend to make make the meeting happen (at least we haven't found a way around this yet). Zoom does not have this requirement.
Said another way - in a Zoom meeting, you have the option "Enable join before host" This allows the meeting to happen with or without the person who scheduled it.This was a problem for us, as we want schedulers to schedule meetings for their bosses (providers) and the schedule not be involved in the meeting at all. Luckily we found that if you have calendar delegation rights to the person who will be in the meeting, though Outlook, you can schedule a Teams meeting on their behalf.
False: As long as someone has the auto generated link (generated from within teams calendar or the via the outlook plugin) anyone can start the meeting. I have been using Teams for 2 years now and have never had to have the person that created the meeting actually attend.
Example: A meeting request is sent by me. My co-worker clicks Join Meeting from outlook, teams, or the meeting reminder (if one is setup) the meeting is started. All attendees will get a pop-up (assuming the teams client is running) saying XYZ has started the meeting, do you want to join?
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@david-wiese said in Microsoft Teams:
@Dashrender said in Microsoft Teams:
Teams requires the meeting owner to attend to make make the meeting happen (at least we haven't found a way around this yet). Zoom does not have this requirement.
Said another way - in a Zoom meeting, you have the option "Enable join before host" This allows the meeting to happen with or without the person who scheduled it.This was a problem for us, as we want schedulers to schedule meetings for their bosses (providers) and the schedule not be involved in the meeting at all. Luckily we found that if you have calendar delegation rights to the person who will be in the meeting, though Outlook, you can schedule a Teams meeting on their behalf.
False: As long as someone has the auto generated link (generated from within teams calendar or the via the outlook plugin) anyone can start the meeting. I have been using Teams for 2 years now and have never had to have the person that created the meeting actually attend.
Example: A meeting request is sent by me. My co-worker clicks Join Meeting from outlook, teams, or the meeting reminder (if one is setup) the meeting is started. All attendees will get a pop-up (assuming the teams client is running) saying XYZ has started the meeting, do you want to join?
When a guest joins a meeting I (paying customer) made and invited a non paying customer too, this is what I see when the non paying customer logs in.
I made sure two people were in the meeting just now, and they can't start the meeting without the host. Perhaps I'm missing a checkbox - going back to check that now.
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When making a meeting from Outlook's calendar, this seems like the only option - i.e. enable a Teams based meeting.
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Teams has no more option when making a meeting than Outlook Calendar
@david-wiese I'd appreciate it if you could send a meeting to my co-worker and I, and see if we can join without you. This option might be a setting change in your companies O365 settings.
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I use both Zoom and Teams at work.
Basic overview:
Zoom is reliable and easy to use
Teams is relatively easy to use for video conferencing BUT it's a small part of a larger picture.Zoom doesn't pretend to be anything. It's video conferencing software, and it works really well.
Teams tries to do a lot.
Good:- video conferencing
- team chat, and channels
- file sharing
Bad
- Tries to do too much. Wraps Sharepoint/ODfB, O365 editing tools, Phone calls,
- Unless you apply a registry setting via GPO, it auto starts at login. No GPO setting to STFU
- It's pushed REALLY hard from MS.
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@david-wiese said in Microsoft Teams:
False: As long as someone has the auto generated link (generated from within teams calendar or the via the outlook plugin) anyone can start the meeting. I have been using Teams for 2 years now and have never had to have the person that created the meeting actually attend.
Thanks for this post - my early googles didn't land me on anything, but this morning got lucky.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-participant-settings-for-a-teams-meeting-53261366-dbd5-45f9-aae9-a70e6354f88e?ui=en-us&rs=en-us&ad=usThis can be set globally as mentioned in the link, but it can also be set by the host, sadly, not during initial meeting creation, but right afterwords.
From teams:
Open the calendar > open the meeting > click on Meeting Options
This will open a webpage and show this.
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@Dashrender said in Microsoft Teams:
Thanks for this post - my early googles didn't land me on anything, but this morning got lucky.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-participant-settings-for-a-teams-meeting-53261366-dbd5-45f9-aae9-a70e6354f88e?ui=en-us&rs=en-us&ad=usA good example of what's wrong with Teams. It's so complicated that even someone like you can't always figure it out. Bob the Sales Manager has no chance.
I've never understood how Microsoft manage to make products so convoluted. Then someone like Zoom comes along and shows how simple things can be.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Microsoft Teams:
A good example of what's wrong with Teams. It's so complicated that even someone like you can't always figure it out. Bob the Sales Manager has no chance.
This this this.
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@Carnival-Boy said in Microsoft Teams:
@Dashrender said in Microsoft Teams:
Thanks for this post - my early googles didn't land me on anything, but this morning got lucky.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/change-participant-settings-for-a-teams-meeting-53261366-dbd5-45f9-aae9-a70e6354f88e?ui=en-us&rs=en-us&ad=usA good example of what's wrong with Teams. It's so complicated that even someone like you can't always figure it out. Bob the Sales Manager has no chance.
I've never understood how Microsoft manage to make products so convoluted. Then someone like Zoom comes along and shows how simple things can be.
No disagreement here - no reason for these settings to be buried - I'm sure their argument is - there's likely no one that will use that option, so why clutter the initial interface.
At least the admin can set the default to auto join the meeting.
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Thanks everyone for the very valuable help.
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Also, be careful
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@nadnerB OMG, is MS Teams like SnapChat?
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Can anyone honestly recommend Teams? Asking for a friend
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@warren-stanley said in Microsoft Teams:
Can anyone honestly recommend Teams? Asking for a friend
LOL, not this guy. What's amazing is... how the heck did they screw this up? Like with Rocket and Mattermost both being older, open, and free and Teams just.... completely fails by comparison! How can they have so much money and be so completely bad at this?
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Teams:
@warren-stanley said in Microsoft Teams:
Can anyone honestly recommend Teams? Asking for a friend
LOL, not this guy. What's amazing is... how the heck did they screw this up? Like with Rocket and Mattermost both being older, open, and free and Teams just.... completely fails by comparison! How can they have so much money and be so completely bad at this?
It's seems that Teams is popular among Colleges or at least where I'm working at and where my wife works at.
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@black3dynamite said in Microsoft Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Teams:
@warren-stanley said in Microsoft Teams:
Can anyone honestly recommend Teams? Asking for a friend
LOL, not this guy. What's amazing is... how the heck did they screw this up? Like with Rocket and Mattermost both being older, open, and free and Teams just.... completely fails by comparison! How can they have so much money and be so completely bad at this?
It's seems that Teams is popular among Colleges or at least where I'm working at and where my wife works at.
Microsoft give stuff away / offer significant discounts, for Nonprofit and Academia. This trains generations of people (including IT folk) into thinking Microsoft is a "Standard" (as opposed to a "Product"). I'm in the predicament of having access to 365 licencing to cover my workplace, for next to $Zero, and it's the only external cloud based solution that offers data storage (at rest) on our soil (which is mandated by our upstream funding) for that $Zero figure.
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@warren-stanley said in Microsoft Teams:
@black3dynamite said in Microsoft Teams:
@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Teams:
@warren-stanley said in Microsoft Teams:
Can anyone honestly recommend Teams? Asking for a friend
LOL, not this guy. What's amazing is... how the heck did they screw this up? Like with Rocket and Mattermost both being older, open, and free and Teams just.... completely fails by comparison! How can they have so much money and be so completely bad at this?
It's seems that Teams is popular among Colleges or at least where I'm working at and where my wife works at.
Microsoft give stuff away / offer significant discounts, for Nonprofit and Academia. This trains generations of people (including IT folk) into thinking Microsoft is a "Standard" (as opposed to a "Product"). I'm in the predicament of having access to 365 licencing to cover my workplace, for next to $Zero, and it's the only external cloud based solution that offers data storage (at rest) on our soil (which is mandated by our upstream funding) for that $Zero figure.
Rocket and Mattermost both do that, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Microsoft Teams:
@nadnerB OMG, is MS Teams like SnapChat?
Looks like it's a bolt on.
https://collab365.community/how-to-use-snapchat-filters-in-a-microsoft-teams-meeting/
https://www.onmsft.com/how-to/heres-how-to-use-snapchat-camera-on-windows-10-to-spice-up-your-microsoft-teams-calls
