lpadmin Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS
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For those of you who deal with Apple OSX and Linux systems, with "high end printers" how are you going about addressing your printer setup and installation?
I can still forcibly use a print driver today and that isn't a huge issue. What I do forsee being an issue is that CUPs and Apple are actively trying to get rid of proprietary drivers for printers and instead move to generic printer drivers.
Just looking to discuss.
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In our environment we have EFI Fiery print servers attached to our printers, these essentially require that we use and deploy our printers with the Fiery driver, the alarm is annoying at this point, but is certain to be an issue sooner than later.
The printers are managed on a service contract, so sure I could kick this can down the road, but I can tell how this conversation is going to float.
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I've actually been relying on generic drivers on Linux, Mac (when I use to have one) and Windows 10 now.
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@black3dynamite said in lpadmin Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS:
I've actually been relying on generic drivers on Linux, Mac (when I use to have one) and Windows 10 now.
Do you have these EFI Fiery print servers? In terms of the specifics of what this print server does, I really don't know. I can do everything I need with a generic. Our creative members may need something within them, but not once has anyone been able to explain what specifically.
Obviously our printer rep preaches about us using the driver (otherwise issues may occur)
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@DustinB3403 said in lpadmin Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS:
@black3dynamite said in lpadmin Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS:
I've actually been relying on generic drivers on Linux, Mac (when I use to have one) and Windows 10 now.
Do you have these EFI Fiery print servers? In terms of the specifics of what this print server does, I really don't know. I can do everything I need with a generic. Our creative members may need something within them, but not once has anyone been able to explain what specifically.
Obviously our printer rep preaches about us using the driver (otherwise issues may occur)
What type of printers are we talking about?
High end printers to me is the large format roll printers that Epson, Canon and HP makes.
Or maybe you're talking about a digital printing press, like the modern equivalent to a printing press?
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@Pete-S We have a Canon Pro-4100 and Canon iPR C810s, and Canon Image Runner C5535
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For the 4100 there is a secondary package which makes sense to use, as it allows you to plot different prints on different parts of the roll.
Kind of like placing cuts outs on a CNC laser so you can use the roll more efficiently, but the actual driver to print to this, is even throwing the warning about print drivers as going away soon more or less.
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@DustinB3403 said in lpadmin Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS:
For the 4100 there is a secondary package which makes sense to use, as it allows you to plot different prints on different parts of the roll.
Kind of like placing cuts outs on a CNC laser so you can use the roll more efficiently, but the actual driver to print to this, is even throwing the warning about print drivers as going away soon more or less.
Yes, I'm familiar with that. I've seen the same type of software for Windows and it was used for printing on HP Designjet printers.
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@DustinB3403 said in lpadmin Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS:
@Pete-S We have a Canon Pro-4100 and Canon iPR C810s, and Canon Image Runner C5535
For these type of printers I don't see a problem if special printer drivers disappears from the OS.
They will move all the special sauce to the print server or an application that does the same thing.So when you print, the OS will generate some generic postscript but instead of going directly to the printer it will go through the print server or application and be massaged before it ends up on the printer.
Also the printers themselves has a lot of processing capability. I know some printers can make their own color profiles by automatically printing charts and then analyzing them with a built-in spectrophotometer.
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@Pete-S So you're thinking that installing these printers with a generic ipp will be fine? I've been using the generic functionality on my test unit for months without issue (but I also never really print).
Been dealing with specifying an PPD file for these damn things, and this warning is starting to irk me, as I'm not getting any valuable feedback from our printer vendor, just the normal, wishy-washy BS.
eh.
IDK maybe I'm barking up a tree, I just don't see where/how this is going to get fixed
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And the reason I'm having an issue with Airprint/generic drivers is that you get no feedback from the printers, like a jam, supply status etc.
Which these are all pretty important things to know about, especially when you're running comps.
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I would fully expect your printer vendor to supply a solution to this. If they don't, and let's face it, they likely won't with old equipment, you're stuck leaving a single machine not updated managing that printer, just like devices that couldn't be upgraded past Windows XP.
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@Dashrender so while I agree, this issue is with the CUPS developers and Apple. Until those groups settle on a final approach, I don't know that any printer manufacturer would be able to provide a final solution.
Especially with these large printers that do actually require some special features.
Not all of them, but most (at least).
Keeping a system out of date on purpose for this though. . . ugh kill me now.
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@DustinB3403 said in lpadmin Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS:
Keeping a system out of date on purpose for this though. . . ugh kill me now.
Better get used to it - it's exactly what those shops running old XP machines on million dollar printing presses had to do.
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@Dashrender said in lpadmin Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS:
@DustinB3403 said in lpadmin Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS:
Keeping a system out of date on purpose for this though. . . ugh kill me now.
Better get used to it - it's exactly what those shops running old XP machines on million dollar printing presses had to do.
