Mail Server with app like google for testing
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@IRJ said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@Dashrender said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@IRJ said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
I just hope he is not thinking about hosting it for others
yeah I think even Scott has given up on that - even though Scott I think might be hosting for NTG again.
When you can partner with MS, and offer a great service at a great price. It makes more sense for everyone and is much easier to manage for the partner when the customer needs support.
I'm guessing that Scott would agree with the partnering up bit, but I doubt he considers MS a good partner.
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@Dashrender said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@IRJ said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@Dashrender said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@IRJ said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
I just hope he is not thinking about hosting it for others
yeah I think even Scott has given up on that - even though Scott I think might be hosting for NTG again.
When you can partner with MS, and offer a great service at a great price. It makes more sense for everyone and is much easier to manage for the partner when the customer needs support.
I'm guessing that Scott would agree with the partnering up bit, but I doubt he considers MS a good partner.
I never said they were. I said they offer a great service at a great price.
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@IRJ said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@Dashrender said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@IRJ said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@Dashrender said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@IRJ said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
I just hope he is not thinking about hosting it for others
yeah I think even Scott has given up on that - even though Scott I think might be hosting for NTG again.
When you can partner with MS, and offer a great service at a great price. It makes more sense for everyone and is much easier to manage for the partner when the customer needs support.
I'm guessing that Scott would agree with the partnering up bit, but I doubt he considers MS a good partner.
I never said they were. I said they offer a great service at a great price.
/ug - I'm tired and don't feel well - I'm reading things that are not there.. I should really be home sleeping.
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@Obsolesce said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
Sounds like a lot of work to do yourself, all things considered, when something like Zoho exists.
Zoho is pricey if you are going to use it for blob storage. We have Zoho, but also NextCloud, so that we aren't moving things like video files through Zoho.
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@IRJ said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@Dashrender said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@IRJ said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
I just hope he is not thinking about hosting it for others
yeah I think even Scott has given up on that - even though Scott I think might be hosting for NTG again.
When you can partner with MS, and offer a great service at a great price. It makes more sense for everyone and is much easier to manage for the partner when the customer needs support.
I can definitely offer what we found to be better product at better price with Zimbra + NextCloud. We found that a solid win in cost and product quality over O365. But we left Zimbra (but not NextCloud) for Zoho. But Zoho we found to be better than MS products, at a fraction of the price. A dramatic shift.
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Something I've not seen mentioned, and is well worth mentioning, is that you can pair NextCloud with just about any existing email service. So you can do a hybrid model of any commercial email (Google, Zoho, Microsoft, a few others that are decent) plus your NextCloud for the storage and some other pieces.
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@scottalanmiller said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
Something I've not seen mentioned, and is well worth mentioning, is that you can pair NextCloud with just about any existing email service. So you can do a hybrid model of any commercial email (Google, Zoho, Microsoft, a few others that are decent) plus your NextCloud for the storage and some other pieces.
Assuming you use the IMAP client in NC - the email provider themselves really doesn't matter - NC does everything inside it self, once you install the office solution you - right?
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@Dashrender said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@scottalanmiller said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
Something I've not seen mentioned, and is well worth mentioning, is that you can pair NextCloud with just about any existing email service. So you can do a hybrid model of any commercial email (Google, Zoho, Microsoft, a few others that are decent) plus your NextCloud for the storage and some other pieces.
Assuming you use the IMAP client in NC - the email provider themselves really doesn't matter - NC does everything inside it self, once you install the office solution you - right?
Exactly. So someone like MXRoute, which is super cheap, would be a great solution.
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@Obsolesce It sounds like he is trying to make money off this in the future by setting up a service to charge for.
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@jmoore said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@Obsolesce It sounds like he is trying to make money off this in the future by setting up a service to charge for.
Alright then. May the force be with him.
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Well for me, I only need 2 email address at the moment and this is internal use. not a lot of storage, and this is only for testing and not production. I will not offer it to clients. it would be for my own.
I know all these products are out there .
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I think the biggest question is... do you want a more robust email interface, or a more robust storage interface. That determines the direction of the integration.
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In a perfect world Both. Would you consider gmail robust?
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@scottalanmiller said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@Dashrender said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@scottalanmiller said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
Something I've not seen mentioned, and is well worth mentioning, is that you can pair NextCloud with just about any existing email service. So you can do a hybrid model of any commercial email (Google, Zoho, Microsoft, a few others that are decent) plus your NextCloud for the storage and some other pieces.
Assuming you use the IMAP client in NC - the email provider themselves really doesn't matter - NC does everything inside it self, once you install the office solution you - right?
Exactly. So someone like MXRoute, which is super cheap, would be a great solution.
It would be perfect, except he said this:
@mroth911 said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
I want to host my own mail server
He could put Linux, Exim, Dovcot, and Webmin on an old PC and do it himself. He said he wanted to host it, and I get that, but man it can be a lot of work just to save a couple dollars a month. This is a good choice for $5/mo if you really want to play with your own mail server. vultr.com
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@JasGot said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
He could put Linux, Exim, Dovcot, and Webmin on an old PC and do it himself. He said he wanted to host it, and I get that, but man it can be a lot of work just to save a couple dollars a month. This is a good choice for $5/mo if you really want to play with your own mail server.
Zimbra and MailCow both make email management pretty simple. No major effort, especially with no external customers. Building your own from pieces is a pain, using those is not. Putting it on Vultr is great, if hosting is a concern, which it is not for him, so no reason to add in that extra complication or cost.
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That said, if you were doing Postfix (I prefer to Exim) and Dovecot and skipped the Webmin or any other front end piece and stuff 100% with NextCloud for the web interface then you could run on an even smaller instance with as little as 512MB of RAM easily.
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@scottalanmiller said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
That said, if you were doing Postfix (I prefer to Exim) and Dovecot and skipped the Webmin or any other front end piece and stuff 100% with NextCloud for the web interface then you could run on an even smaller instance with as little as 512MB of RAM easily.
I saw the 512 instance and thought the 10GB ssd might be too small for an IMAP mail server, and since it's only $1.5(ipv6) or $2.5(ipv4) cheaper....
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@JasGot said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
@scottalanmiller said in Mail Server with app like google for testing:
That said, if you were doing Postfix (I prefer to Exim) and Dovecot and skipped the Webmin or any other front end piece and stuff 100% with NextCloud for the web interface then you could run on an even smaller instance with as little as 512MB of RAM easily.
I saw the 512 instance and thought the 10GB ssd might be too small for an IMAP mail server, and since it's only $1.5(ipv6) or $2.5(ipv4) cheaper....
Oh true, that might be small. But for just two users, probably okay.
