3CX Linux Beta
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@JaredBusch Seems like a pretty nice system. I'll be kicking the tires.
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my question would be - why risk something that you might have to spend money on when there are definitely options you don't have to spend money on that should get the job done?
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@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
my question would be - why risk something that you might have to spend money on when there are definitely options you don't have to spend money on that should get the job done?
Time is money so you're spending money either way. So it a question of TCO and what features you need.
3CX is a polished product. Well integrated with Yealink for instance. So when you push a button and have all your phones upgraded to the latest 3CX/Yealink firmware you pretty much know that everything is going to work afterwards. You don't have to be the beta tester.
I would imagine a professional tinkerer like @JaredBusch would never be satisfied with something like 3CX though. Being an MSP also put you in a different position compared to being the end user.
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@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
Time is money so you're spending money either way. So it a question of TCO and what features you need.
3CX is a polished product.It's been a long while since I used 3CX... but back when I did, FreePBX was more polished and took less time to get really working. Both have a learning curve for sure. FreePBX will have a lot more support from around here, for example. And the learning time on FreePBX or VitalPBX is so low that I'd say that you can't use the "cost" of that to offset the cost of 3CX if you start having to pay for it.
It's always worth remembering that there is value is paying for something to be simpler and faster to get up and running. But very often this is stated about products that aren't actually easier (or much easier) because there is an assumption that the cost is somehow tied to the ease of use, but it is not. MacOS is a great example... costs a fortune, is actually quite hard to get proficient on compared to Windows, Ubuntu, or Fedora.
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@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
Being an MSP also put you in a different position compared to being the end user.
We are not an MSP, but assume you mean, because I am not an enduser only doing this once...
yeah that plays in to it.
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@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
3CX is a polished product. Well integrated with Yealink for instance. So when you push a button and have all your phones upgraded to the latest 3CX/Yealink firmware you pretty much know that everything is going to work afterwards. You don't have to be the beta tester.
Once setup and handed off, almost all PBX are simple tu use and maintain day to day.
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FWIW, we like 3CX a lot. We worked really closely with them to get certified as one of their preferred providers (which took months), and got to see a lot behind the curtain. Their support engineers really know their stuff and our customers find them to be pretty accessible. They're really good about not over committing their development teams too - so when they roll stuff out, it's generally pretty solid. Just figured I'd throw our opinion in here
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@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
So when you push a button and have all your phones upgraded to the latest 3CX/Yealink firmware you pretty much know that everything is going to work afterwards.
Now that is a pretty solid value that could make up for quite a bit of cost.
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Overall I am quite impressed. Installation was simple. Adding a SIP truck was super simple. They provide a bunch of "free" services to such as DNS, and tunneling.
First downside I have found to the free version is that you need a paid license to use your own FQDN. They provide their own FQDN for free, so that's cool.
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Mobile phone setup is super simply, just download the app, and scan the QR code
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@scottalanmiller said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
So when you push a button and have all your phones upgraded to the latest 3CX/Yealink firmware you pretty much know that everything is going to work afterwards.
Now that is a pretty solid value that could make up for quite a bit of cost.
I was wondering how much value this provided. I've done some firmware updates via FreePBX - been a while though - and I didn't find it very easy, though not end of the world hard either.
A push button solution though would definitely be nice. Anyone know if the endpoint module for FreePBX is there yet?
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@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@scottalanmiller said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
So when you push a button and have all your phones upgraded to the latest 3CX/Yealink firmware you pretty much know that everything is going to work afterwards.
Now that is a pretty solid value that could make up for quite a bit of cost.
I was wondering how much value this provided. I've done some firmware updates via FreePBX - been a while though - and I didn't find it very easy, though not end of the world hard either.
A push button solution though would definitely be nice. Anyone know if the endpoint module for FreePBX is there yet?
Then you were doing it wrong. Assuming you have the paid EPM, it is all just built in. Always has been.
If you were going without the paid EPM, then it is still easy if you have setup auto provisioning manually during initial setup.
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@JaredBusch said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@scottalanmiller said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
So when you push a button and have all your phones upgraded to the latest 3CX/Yealink firmware you pretty much know that everything is going to work afterwards.
Now that is a pretty solid value that could make up for quite a bit of cost.
I was wondering how much value this provided. I've done some firmware updates via FreePBX - been a while though - and I didn't find it very easy, though not end of the world hard either.
A push button solution though would definitely be nice. Anyone know if the endpoint module for FreePBX is there yet?
Then you were doing it wrong. Assuming you have the paid EPM, it is all just built in. Always has been.
If you were going without the paid EPM, then it is still easy if you have setup auto provisioning manually during initial setup.
I've never used EPM.
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@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@JaredBusch said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@scottalanmiller said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
So when you push a button and have all your phones upgraded to the latest 3CX/Yealink firmware you pretty much know that everything is going to work afterwards.
Now that is a pretty solid value that could make up for quite a bit of cost.
I was wondering how much value this provided. I've done some firmware updates via FreePBX - been a while though - and I didn't find it very easy, though not end of the world hard either.
A push button solution though would definitely be nice. Anyone know if the endpoint module for FreePBX is there yet?
Then you were doing it wrong. Assuming you have the paid EPM, it is all just built in. Always has been.
If you were going without the paid EPM, then it is still easy if you have setup auto provisioning manually during initial setup.
I've never used EPM.
That's the part of FreePBX that does that stuff.
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@scottalanmiller said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@JaredBusch said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@scottalanmiller said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
So when you push a button and have all your phones upgraded to the latest 3CX/Yealink firmware you pretty much know that everything is going to work afterwards.
Now that is a pretty solid value that could make up for quite a bit of cost.
I was wondering how much value this provided. I've done some firmware updates via FreePBX - been a while though - and I didn't find it very easy, though not end of the world hard either.
A push button solution though would definitely be nice. Anyone know if the endpoint module for FreePBX is there yet?
Then you were doing it wrong. Assuming you have the paid EPM, it is all just built in. Always has been.
If you were going without the paid EPM, then it is still easy if you have setup auto provisioning manually during initial setup.
I've never used EPM.
That's the part of FreePBX that does that stuff.
Yes I know... JB has always suggested against it's value in the past.
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@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@scottalanmiller said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@JaredBusch said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@scottalanmiller said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
So when you push a button and have all your phones upgraded to the latest 3CX/Yealink firmware you pretty much know that everything is going to work afterwards.
Now that is a pretty solid value that could make up for quite a bit of cost.
I was wondering how much value this provided. I've done some firmware updates via FreePBX - been a while though - and I didn't find it very easy, though not end of the world hard either.
A push button solution though would definitely be nice. Anyone know if the endpoint module for FreePBX is there yet?
Then you were doing it wrong. Assuming you have the paid EPM, it is all just built in. Always has been.
If you were going without the paid EPM, then it is still easy if you have setup auto provisioning manually during initial setup.
I've never used EPM.
That's the part of FreePBX that does that stuff.
Yes I know... JB has always suggested against it's value in the past.
No, it's the ONLY module that does that. Either the paid or the free version. If you didn't use it, that's why it was hard.
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@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@scottalanmiller said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@JaredBusch said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Dashrender said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@scottalanmiller said in 3CX Linux Beta:
@Pete-S said in 3CX Linux Beta:
So when you push a button and have all your phones upgraded to the latest 3CX/Yealink firmware you pretty much know that everything is going to work afterwards.
Now that is a pretty solid value that could make up for quite a bit of cost.
I was wondering how much value this provided. I've done some firmware updates via FreePBX - been a while though - and I didn't find it very easy, though not end of the world hard either.
A push button solution though would definitely be nice. Anyone know if the endpoint module for FreePBX is there yet?
Then you were doing it wrong. Assuming you have the paid EPM, it is all just built in. Always has been.
If you were going without the paid EPM, then it is still easy if you have setup auto provisioning manually during initial setup.
I've never used EPM.
That's the part of FreePBX that does that stuff.
Yes I know... JB has always suggested against it's value in the past.
Because setting up manually once does take some skill, but after that, it is simple file replication.
