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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scotth
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      @scotth said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

      @Dashrender said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

      @Dashrender said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

      @Dashrender said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

      my physicians don't use the same device all the time, they move constantly. Plus they won't even log out of the EHR when they leave an area, why would they bother to log out of LP?

      Because, I don't know, HIPAA?

      Don't get me started.

      Drs who practice out and out hate HIPAA - borderline don't give a shit about your privacy... they care about having whatever whenever as easy as possible. Many of them don't see the benefit to privacy/security.

      I did a camera installation for a doctor purchased from CostCo - maybe $350 because HIPAA. Checked his office PC's. All running XP, transacting over the internet after 7 had been out for over 5 years. Got him a quote for all 8 workstations updated to 7 and a mini server with backups for around $8k. He turned red, choked and almost died on the spot.

      Another reality is that many Drs offices run on a shoestring budget... most GPs only make around $120K/y. I'm in no way surprised he choked.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

        Another reality is that many Drs offices run on a shoestring budget... most GPs only make around $120K/y

        How can it be that low? I mean, I agree that it should be that low, the average GP isn't very good and other than paying off their student loans rarely earns a market value much above the ability to eat, but that seems ridiculously low when a department manager at a Walmart in a low cost area can easily make double that.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

          @Dashrender said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

          Another reality is that many Drs offices run on a shoestring budget... most GPs only make around $120K/y

          How can it be that low? I mean, I agree that it should be that low, the average GP isn't very good and other than paying off their student loans rarely earns a market value much above the ability to eat, but that seems ridiculously low when a department manager at a Walmart in a low cost area can easily make double that.

          Don't ask me - just some stat I read in a journal years ago.... I suppose it could be higher today.

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          • IRJI
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            HIPAA is so lax that the only real solution is to throw it out and replace it with something decent like in the EU. EU is definitely the leader in privacy.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

              @Dashrender said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

              Another reality is that many Drs offices run on a shoestring budget... most GPs only make around $120K/y

              How can it be that low? I mean, I agree that it should be that low, the average GP isn't very good and other than paying off their student loans rarely earns a market value much above the ability to eat, but that seems ridiculously low when a department manager at a Walmart in a low cost area can easily make double that.

              A walmart manager makes $240k in a low cost area?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                @IRJ said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                @Dashrender said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                Another reality is that many Drs offices run on a shoestring budget... most GPs only make around $120K/y

                How can it be that low? I mean, I agree that it should be that low, the average GP isn't very good and other than paying off their student loans rarely earns a market value much above the ability to eat, but that seems ridiculously low when a department manager at a Walmart in a low cost area can easily make double that.

                A walmart manager makes $240k in a low cost area?

                Department manager, yes. Store managers, way more.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  Walmart store manager near me (I'm in one of the lowest cost major metros in the country) was in the $400K range. Which makes sense if you think about the volume of business a Walmart does and their need to have skilled people in those roles. If you can't pay prevailing wages, you'd be screwed. Department managers (real ones, not office managers) in finance can be $300-850K in a low cost area (easily seven figures in high cost ones) as a comparison for a competitive type job that depends primarily on broad management and business skills.

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                  • NDCN
                    NDC
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                    Walmart store manager near me (I'm in one of the lowest cost major metros in the country) was in the $400K range. Which makes sense if you think about the volume of business a Walmart does and their need to have skilled people in those roles. If you can't pay prevailing wages, you'd be screwed. Department managers (real ones, not office managers) in finance can be $300-850K in a low cost area (easily seven figures in high cost ones) as a comparison for a competitive type job that depends primarily on broad management and business skills.

                    Probably not definitive but Glassdoor suggests ~140k on average for Walmart store managers. That would put your acquaintance well on the north end of what people are reporting for compensation for that position.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @NDC
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                      @NDC said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                      Walmart store manager near me (I'm in one of the lowest cost major metros in the country) was in the $400K range. Which makes sense if you think about the volume of business a Walmart does and their need to have skilled people in those roles. If you can't pay prevailing wages, you'd be screwed. Department managers (real ones, not office managers) in finance can be $300-850K in a low cost area (easily seven figures in high cost ones) as a comparison for a competitive type job that depends primarily on broad management and business skills.

                      Probably not definitive but Glassdoor suggests ~140k on average for Walmart store managers. That would put your acquaintance well on the north end of what people are reporting for compensation for that position.

                      That does, although still higher than the doctors, apparently. Although I've been a lot of places and I always check Glassdoor for places where I work and the numbers are never close to accurate. That's a pretty isolated cross-section, but it is consistently wrong to an absurd degree in provable ways.

                      If Walmart is like places I've worked, GD would like numbers easily half of what everyone was making.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
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                        Walmart themselves put the average at $175K. And that's recent.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @NDC
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                          @NDC said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                          Walmart store manager near me (I'm in one of the lowest cost major metros in the country) was in the $400K range. Which makes sense if you think about the volume of business a Walmart does and their need to have skilled people in those roles. If you can't pay prevailing wages, you'd be screwed. Department managers (real ones, not office managers) in finance can be $300-850K in a low cost area (easily seven figures in high cost ones) as a comparison for a competitive type job that depends primarily on broad management and business skills.

                          Probably not definitive but Glassdoor suggests ~140k on average for Walmart store managers. That would put your acquaintance well on the north end of what people are reporting for compensation for that position.

                          Yeah.. that seems to be more in line with the Walmart Dept managers I know.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                            @NDC said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                            Walmart store manager near me (I'm in one of the lowest cost major metros in the country) was in the $400K range. Which makes sense if you think about the volume of business a Walmart does and their need to have skilled people in those roles. If you can't pay prevailing wages, you'd be screwed. Department managers (real ones, not office managers) in finance can be $300-850K in a low cost area (easily seven figures in high cost ones) as a comparison for a competitive type job that depends primarily on broad management and business skills.

                            Probably not definitive but Glassdoor suggests ~140k on average for Walmart store managers. That would put your acquaintance well on the north end of what people are reporting for compensation for that position.

                            Yeah.. that seems to be more in line with the Walmart Dept managers I know.

                            If the department managers you know make that, and you live in a really low paying market, that definitely suggests that the store managers are quite a bit higher there. You'd expect quite a leap from department manager to store manager.

                            My next door neighbour is a department manager at the little local Walmart.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                              @Dashrender said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                              @NDC said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                              Walmart store manager near me (I'm in one of the lowest cost major metros in the country) was in the $400K range. Which makes sense if you think about the volume of business a Walmart does and their need to have skilled people in those roles. If you can't pay prevailing wages, you'd be screwed. Department managers (real ones, not office managers) in finance can be $300-850K in a low cost area (easily seven figures in high cost ones) as a comparison for a competitive type job that depends primarily on broad management and business skills.

                              Probably not definitive but Glassdoor suggests ~140k on average for Walmart store managers. That would put your acquaintance well on the north end of what people are reporting for compensation for that position.

                              Yeah.. that seems to be more in line with the Walmart Dept managers I know.

                              If the department managers you know make that, and you live in a really low paying market, that definitely suggests that the store managers are quite a bit higher there. You'd expect quite a leap from department manager to store manager.

                              My next door neighbour is a department manager at the little local Walmart.

                              I know two people (husband and wife) who are high up in walmart... one is a dept manager - around $150K/y in Oskaloosa IA (definitely not a high paying market) and his wife works for the optometry department earning way more than he does (her job requires her to travel between sites frequently).

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @NDC
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                                @NDC said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                                Probably not definitive but Glassdoor suggests ~140k on average for Walmart store managers.

                                I wonder if this, as GD tends to do, gets managers in stores, and store managers confused.

                                That's one of the problems with GD... nothing is verified.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                                  I know two people (husband and wife) who are high up in walmart... one is a dept manager - around $150K/y in Oskaloosa IA

                                  That seems reasonable.

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                                  • notverypunnyN
                                    notverypunny
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                                    So,back to the OP's topic. Among the IT team we've been using KeePass since before I came onboard. I saw Buttercup and skimming the site it looks like an interesting option https://buttercup.pw/

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @notverypunny
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                                      @notverypunny said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                                      So,back to the OP's topic. Among the IT team we've been using KeePass since before I came onboard. I saw Buttercup and skimming the site it looks like an interesting option https://buttercup.pw/

                                      I've installed that on my system, but not yet set it up beyond creating the bcup file.

                                      We briefly talked about it a couple weeks ago.

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                                      • notverypunnyN
                                        notverypunny @JaredBusch
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                                        @JaredBusch said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                                        @notverypunny said in Deploying a password manager product to an entire company?:

                                        So,back to the OP's topic. Among the IT team we've been using KeePass since before I came onboard. I saw Buttercup and skimming the site it looks like an interesting option https://buttercup.pw/

                                        I've installed that on my system, but not yet set it up beyond creating the bcup file.

                                        We briefly talked about it a couple weeks ago.

                                        Alright, I couldn't remember if it was here or another site where I first saw the project.

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