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    • KellyK
      Kelly @thegr81337
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      @thegr81337 said in Non-IT News Thread:

      @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

      Amazon fires: France and Ireland threaten to block EU trade deal

      France and Ireland say they will not ratify a huge trade deal with South American nations unless Brazil does more to fight fires in the Amazon.

      I'm a bit embarrassed to say that everytime I see something on this rainforest fire, I always get confused thinking that Bezos's company is ablaze. It doesn't help that the Fire tablet and Fire Stick are a thing...

      You're not alone.

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      • scottalanmillerS
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        BBC News - Trump says US firms 'hereby ordered' to quit China
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49450245

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

          BBC News - Trump says US firms 'hereby ordered' to quit China
          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49450245

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHH

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            BBC News - The African American who moved to Ghana 'to escape US racism'
            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-49394354

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            • Reid CooperR
              Reid Cooper @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

              BBC News - The African American who moved to Ghana 'to escape US racism'
              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-49394354

              Interesting stuff. I had not heard about this before.

              Youtube Video

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              • mlnewsM
                mlnews
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                Amazon fires: G7 leaders close to agreeing plan to help, says Macron

                International leaders gathering at the G7 summit are reportedly nearing an agreement to help fight fires in the Amazon rainforest.
                French President Emmanuel Macron said on Sunday a deal to provide "technical and financial help" was close. Leaders from the US, Japan, Germany, France, Italy, the UK and Canada continue their meeting in the seaside town of Biarritz on Monday. It comes amid international tension over record fires burning in Brazil. Critics have accused Brazil's President, Jair Bolsonaro, of "green lighting" the Amazon's destruction through anti-environmental rhetoric and a lack of action on deforestation violations.

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                • mlnewsM
                  mlnews
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                  Asian stocks drop as US-China trade war escalates

                  Asian stock markets tumbled on Monday after a sharp escalation in the US-China trade war rattled investors.
                  On Friday, US President Donald Trump announced tariff hikes on effectively all Chinese imports to the US.It came after Beijing said it would impose fresh duties and raise tariffs on US imports into China. In China, Hong Kong's Hang Seng index slid 3.2% while the Shanghai Composite gave up 1.3%. Japan's benchmark Nikkei 225 index dropped 2.3%. The Chinese yuan weakened to a fresh 11-year low against the US dollar. The onshore yuan was around 7.15 per dollar in morning Asian trade. Sharp falls in the yuan earlier this month prompted the US to officially name China a "currency manipulator", adding to tensions between the two countries.

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                  • Reid CooperR
                    Reid Cooper
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                    https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/zeppelins-stopped-flying-after-hindenburg-disaster-now-scientists-want-bring-ncna1043911

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                    • KellyK
                      Kelly @Reid Cooper
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                      @Reid-Cooper said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/zeppelins-stopped-flying-after-hindenburg-disaster-now-scientists-want-bring-ncna1043911

                      This is so cool.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        BBC News - Opioid crisis: Johnson & Johnson hit by landmark ruling
                        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49452373

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                          BBC News - Opioid crisis: Johnson & Johnson hit by landmark ruling
                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49452373

                          How is this not more on the prescribing providers? Is there a such thing as an inverse class action lawsuit?

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                            Amazon fires: What about Bolivia?

                            All eyes have been on the burning of the Amazon rainforest in Brazil, as international pressure - and sharp criticism - have been heaped upon its president.
                            But fires do not stop at borders, and Bolivia's rainforest is burning too. The Amazon sprawls for millions of square miles across nine different countries - and Bolivia has seen fires rage across the forest near its borders with Brazil and Paraguay. The size of the fires is estimated to have doubled since Thursday. About one million hectares - or more than 3,800 square miles- are affected. Yet while Brazil's President Bolsonaro has been trading rhetorical blows with world leaders over his actions to protect the rainforest, little attention has been given to the blaze in Bolivia and its causes. Bolivian President Evo Morales is in the midst of a controversial re-election campaign, having gone to the courts to abolish term limits as he seeks a fourth time as the country's leader. Unlike his Brazilian counterpart, he has decided to accept international help in fighting the fires - securing a Boeing 747 "supertanker" from the US to drop water, and welcoming the offer of aid from the G7 summit at the weekend.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              BBC News - Opioid crisis: Johnson & Johnson hit by landmark ruling
                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49452373

                              How is this not more on the prescribing providers? Is there a such thing as an inverse class action lawsuit?

                              Needs to hit the vendors first, then they can go after prescribers.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                BBC News - Opioid crisis: Johnson & Johnson hit by landmark ruling
                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49452373

                                How is this not more on the prescribing providers? Is there a such thing as an inverse class action lawsuit?

                                Needs to hit the vendors first, then they can go after prescribers.

                                I don't really follow - the vendors aren't advertising directly to patients - they are advertising to providers - providers who should be doing their due diligence and knowing the side effects, etc and not prescribing when not called for.

                                I would totally blame the manufacturers (is that who you are calling the vendors? - if not, who are the vendors in your mind?) IF people could buy this crap over the counter and there was no safeguards to it's purchase - which of course we know there is a black market for this stuff, but that's basically outside the scope, unless you want to claim the manufacturers are getting supply to the black market easily and on purpose.

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                                  mlnews
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                                  Brazil will reject $20 million of Amazon fire aid from G7

                                  Brazil will reject an offer of $20 million in international aid for the fires that are burning across the Amazon rainforest, according to the president's office.
                                  The special communications office for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro told CNN on Tuesday that the country would turn down the money that was pledged at the G7 summit in France on Monday. The blazes in the Amazon have caused a public spat between Bolsonaro and French President Emmanuel Macron, who has been vocal about the need for an international response to the fires. According to news site G1 Globo, Bolsonaro's chief of staff suggested that the aid should be used elsewhere instead. "We are thankful, but maybe those resources would be more relevant to reforest Europe," Onyx Lorenzoni was quoted as saying by G1 Globo late Monday night. But on Tuesday morning, around an hour after his communications office confirmed that Brazil would reject the funding, Bolsonaro appeared to cast doubt on the matter. "Did I say that? Did I? Did Jair Bolsonaro speak?" he asked reporters outside the presidential residence, adding that he would only respond to the offer once Macron withdrew his insults of him.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    I don't really follow - the vendors aren't advertising directly to patients - they are advertising to providers - providers who should be doing their due diligence and knowing the side effects, etc and not prescribing when not called for.

                                    Yup, so first you have to prove, as they just did, that there is something going on before you can prove that the individual prescriptions are a problem.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                      I don't really follow - the vendors aren't advertising directly to patients - they are advertising to providers - providers who should be doing their due diligence and knowing the side effects, etc and not prescribing when not called for.

                                      Yup, so first you have to prove, as they just did, that there is something going on before you can prove that the individual prescriptions are a problem.

                                      WHAT? really? so if the manufacturer was completely guiltless - you're saying that makes the prescribers guiltless too? Ok you didn't say that - so I need you to say what you said, but in a totally different way so I might understand where you're driving at.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        WHAT? really? so if the manufacturer was completely guiltless - you're saying that makes the prescribers guiltless too?

                                        Not in all cases, but in this one, pretty much. It would make it impossible to go after prescribers for sure.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          Ok you didn't say that - so I need you to say what you said, but in a totally different way so I might understand where you're driving at.

                                          For a prescriber to get in trouble, they don't have to just have done something wrong, they have to have been paid off to do it, or else you can't show anything because doctors have unlimited rights to do any reckless thing that they want. Doctors are essentially immune to being sued over judgement calls.

                                          But vendors aren't allowed to pay off doctors to kill people, that's a crime. And if that crime has been committed, then you just have to show that a specific doctors was in on it.

                                          Basically you need a crime first. This isn't a question of ethics, it's about legality. And doctors have zero ethical requirements, but there are certain laws that they can't break.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Selling a TV off of the back of a truck is totally legal. So to stop that happening, it's best to start by showing that TVs were stolen and tracking them to trucks that are selling them. Then you can arrest the guys selling them from the trucks.

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