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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
      last edited by

      @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

      @JaredBusch said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

      /etc/dnf/automatic.conf

      Does this use a built-in smtp server to send emails? What if I want to have it log into an office 365 account to send messages?

      That's what the SMTP Server (aka an MTA) would be for. The SMTP server is literally the thing that logs into O365 or Gmail or whatever.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        So, for example, if you are using Postfix, you would configure Postfix to log into O365 when sending emails.

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        • wrx7mW
          wrx7m @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

          @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

          @JaredBusch said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

          /etc/dnf/automatic.conf

          Does this use a built-in smtp server to send emails? What if I want to have it log into an office 365 account to send messages?

          That's what the SMTP Server (aka an MTA) would be for. The SMTP server is literally the thing that logs into O365 or Gmail or whatever.

          I understand that, I wanted to know if there was another config file somewhere for dnf-automatic to specify this information.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @wrx7m
            last edited by

            @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

            @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

            @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

            @JaredBusch said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

            /etc/dnf/automatic.conf

            Does this use a built-in smtp server to send emails? What if I want to have it log into an office 365 account to send messages?

            That's what the SMTP Server (aka an MTA) would be for. The SMTP server is literally the thing that logs into O365 or Gmail or whatever.

            I understand that, I wanted to know if there was another config file somewhere for dnf-automatic to specify this information.

            I don't believe so, I think that the SMTP config is the only place.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              I just did a search on this topic, and ML was the top hit 😉

              https://mangolassi.it/topic/15902/how-does-dnf-automatic-send-emails

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              • wrx7mW
                wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                @JaredBusch said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                /etc/dnf/automatic.conf

                Does this use a built-in smtp server to send emails? What if I want to have it log into an office 365 account to send messages?

                That's what the SMTP Server (aka an MTA) would be for. The SMTP server is literally the thing that logs into O365 or Gmail or whatever.

                I understand that, I wanted to know if there was another config file somewhere for dnf-automatic to specify this information.

                I don't believe so, I think that the SMTP config is the only place.

                OK. So, since I most likely need to install a mail server to accomplish this, is postfix the best one for this?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                  last edited by

                  @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                  @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                  @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                  @JaredBusch said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                  /etc/dnf/automatic.conf

                  Does this use a built-in smtp server to send emails? What if I want to have it log into an office 365 account to send messages?

                  That's what the SMTP Server (aka an MTA) would be for. The SMTP server is literally the thing that logs into O365 or Gmail or whatever.

                  I understand that, I wanted to know if there was another config file somewhere for dnf-automatic to specify this information.

                  I don't believe so, I think that the SMTP config is the only place.

                  OK. So, since I most likely need to install a mail server to accomplish this, is postfix the best one for this?

                  Yes, definitely. It's well known, easy to configure, and the default on most all systems (and definitely all that use DNF.)

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                    @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                    @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                    @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                    @JaredBusch said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                    /etc/dnf/automatic.conf

                    Does this use a built-in smtp server to send emails? What if I want to have it log into an office 365 account to send messages?

                    That's what the SMTP Server (aka an MTA) would be for. The SMTP server is literally the thing that logs into O365 or Gmail or whatever.

                    I understand that, I wanted to know if there was another config file somewhere for dnf-automatic to specify this information.

                    I don't believe so, I think that the SMTP config is the only place.

                    OK. So, since I most likely need to install a mail server to accomplish this, is postfix the best one for this?

                    Yes, definitely. It's well known, easy to configure, and the default on most all systems (and definitely all that use DNF.)

                    Down the rabbit hole I go. Needed a squid proxy server. Then needed fail2ban, then dnf-automatic, now postfix.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @wrx7m
                      last edited by

                      @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                      @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                      @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                      @wrx7m said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                      @JaredBusch said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                      /etc/dnf/automatic.conf

                      Does this use a built-in smtp server to send emails? What if I want to have it log into an office 365 account to send messages?

                      That's what the SMTP Server (aka an MTA) would be for. The SMTP server is literally the thing that logs into O365 or Gmail or whatever.

                      I understand that, I wanted to know if there was another config file somewhere for dnf-automatic to specify this information.

                      I don't believe so, I think that the SMTP config is the only place.

                      OK. So, since I most likely need to install a mail server to accomplish this, is postfix the best one for this?

                      Yes, definitely. It's well known, easy to configure, and the default on most all systems (and definitely all that use DNF.)

                      Down the rabbit hole I go. Needed a squid proxy server. Then needed fail2ban, then dnf-automatic, now postfix.

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m
                        last edited by

                        To set the dnf-automatic timer to run every day at 1AM:

                        nano /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-automatic.timer

[Unit]
Description=dnf-automatic timer
# See comment in dnf-makecache.service
ConditionPathExists=!/run/ostree-booted
Wants=network-online.target

[Timer]
OnCalendar=*-*-* 01:00:00

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          There really need to be a setting for this in the Workstation GUI.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            @FATeknollogee said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                            There really need to be a setting for this in the Workstation GUI.

                            By default Fedora Workstation + Cinnamon uses dnfdragora which is a totally separate process.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                              @FATeknollogee said in Using dnf-automatic to keep Fedora up to date:

                              There really need to be a setting for this in the Workstation GUI.

                              By default Fedora Workstation + Cinnamon uses dnfdragora which is a totally separate process.

                              Yes, I realize that.
                              This setting exists in Cockpit, no reason why it can't be in WS!

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