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      NetworkNerd
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      For those using Pi-Hole, who do you use for your upstream DNS providers? I'm partial to CloudFlare but wanted to see what others chose. OpenDNS or Comodo sound like solid choices as well.

      Additionally, did you select more than one upstream DNS provider for a measure of redundancy (i.e. one DNS server from two or 3 different providers)? Unless you specify ip addresses in the custom DNS server settings in Pi-hole, it's not quite clear which one becomes the primary DNS provider if you're using multiple.

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        JaredBusch @NetworkNerd
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        @NetworkNerd said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

        For those using Pi-Hole, who do you use for your upstream DNS providers? I'm partial to CloudFlare but wanted to see what others chose. OpenDNS or Comodo sound like solid choices as well.

        Additionally, did you select more than one upstream DNS provider for a measure of redundancy (i.e. one DNS server from two or 3 different providers)? Unless you specify ip addresses in the custom DNS server settings in Pi-hole, it's not quite clear which one becomes the primary DNS provider if you're using multiple.

        I use cloudflare

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          dbeato
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          I use CloudFlare, Google and OPENDNS. I have need to do this when CloudFlare at some moments stops working.

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            1337
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            You should test how fast different dns servers resolve hostnames from your location. It's very location dependant.
            Then pick the fastest ones.

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              scotth
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              Steve Gibson's GRC DNS Benchmark

              I don't know if this is the defining app for public DNS servers but it may help.

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                donaldlandru @scotth
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                @scotth said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                Steve Gibson's GRC DNS Benchmark

                I don't know if this is the defining app for public DNS servers but it may help.

                I have used a version of this previously
                https://github.com/cleanbrowsing/dnsperftest

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                  travisdh1 @NetworkNerd
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                  @NetworkNerd I like Cloudflare to use the encrypted DNS channels. I know Google offers the same thing, but would rather use Cloudflare.

                  I haven't had any issues with the Cloudflare DNS service.

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                    scottalanmiller
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                    CloudFlare here.

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                      wrx7m @dbeato
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                      @dbeato said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                      I use CloudFlare, Google and OPENDNS. I have need to do this when CloudFlare at some moments stops working.

                      How often does Cloudflare stop working?

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                        NashBrydges @wrx7m
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                        @wrx7m said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                        @dbeato said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                        I use CloudFlare, Google and OPENDNS. I have need to do this when CloudFlare at some moments stops working.

                        How often does Cloudflare stop working?

                        Their DNS was down for a bit almost a year ago I think but that's the only outage I'm aware of.

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                          Curtis @wrx7m
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                          @wrx7m said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                          How often does Cloudflare stop working?

                          Who cares? Use two different providers.

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                            black3dynamite
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                            If you are using Pi-Hole in-house and your router (edgerouter) name servers is set to cloudflare, should Pi-Hole upstream be pointing to the router IP?

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                              Reid Cooper @black3dynamite
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                              @black3dynamite said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                              If you are using Pi-Hole in-house and your router (edgerouter) name servers is set to cloudflare, should Pi-Hole upstream be pointing to the router IP?

                              Probably not, you want to limit your caches.

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                                wrx7m @Curtis
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                                @Curtis said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                                @wrx7m said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                                How often does Cloudflare stop working?

                                Who cares? Use two different providers.

                                I was wondering how often he experienced outages with Cloudflare. I haven't noticed anything.

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                                  dbeato @wrx7m
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                                  @wrx7m said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                                  @dbeato said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                                  I use CloudFlare, Google and OPENDNS. I have need to do this when CloudFlare at some moments stops working.

                                  How often does Cloudflare stop working?

                                  I get high spikes on CLoudflares from time to time and DNS stops working randomly so I only find out when I had Cloudflare as my only DNS. Since then I use two or more DNS providers.

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                                    JaredBusch @dbeato
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                                    @dbeato said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                                    @wrx7m said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                                    @dbeato said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                                    I use CloudFlare, Google and OPENDNS. I have need to do this when CloudFlare at some moments stops working.

                                    How often does Cloudflare stop working?

                                    I get high spikes on CLoudflares from time to time and DNS stops working randomly so I only find out when I had Cloudflare as my only DNS. Since then I use two or more DNS providers.

                                    I don't do that only because the Pi-Hole interface has no way to prioritize which one is used first that I can see.
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                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch I suspect that if you put them into Custom that it prioritizes in the order that you select.

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                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                                        @JaredBusch I suspect that if you put them into Custom that it prioritizes in the order that you select.

                                        But then there are only two possible.

                                        If I checked the boxes, I could have 4 over two providers, or more.

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                                          black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by black3dynamite

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Pi-Hole Upstream DNS Providers:

                                          @JaredBusch I suspect that if you put them into Custom that it prioritizes in the order that you select.

                                          If you look in the setupVars.conf file, they are listed like this.
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                                          So you might have to edit the file instead.
                                          But if you click the save button from the web ui, it will reset the ordering of the upstream dns servers.

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