Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?
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@bnrstnr said in Where to read Code?:
He seems to be really wanting to learn web stuffs, why not learn PHP?
I dont actually know what I want to learn.
I was just trying looking for something to try and free code camp popped up and I figured i'd give it a try.
HTML/HTML5 CSS etc was just what the curriculum started with..
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@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
I dont actually know what I want to learn.
That's a tough place to be in. Cooking, car washing, coding, markup....
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
I dont actually know what I want to learn.
Is this actually true? You weren't interesting in learning to code, but just stumbled on a coding site and went with the non-coding stuff? This doesn't match your other statements of being told to try coding and then going to look to learn to code.
If you were trying to learn to code... that leads you down one path.
If you weren't trying to learn to code and were just looking for general education of any kind, then it leads you somewhere completely different.
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
I dont actually know what I want to learn.
Is this actually true? You weren't interesting in learning to code, but just stumbled on a coding site and went with the non-coding stuff? This doesn't match your other statements of being told to try coding and then going to look to learn to code.
If you were trying to learn to code... that leads you down one path.
If you weren't trying to learn to code and were just looking for general education of any kind, then it leads you somewhere completely different.
SO, Conversation started that I should try coding.
The person I was talking to suggested trying something free - So i googled "Free Coding" and Free Code Camp popped up.
I found a lot of people liked it on different websites so I popped in and started up.
Am I interested in learning code? Yes, I've had an interest in writing code for a while.
I've tried several different sites in the past and then something else came along.
I just figured I'd give it another try now that I am more comfortable with things in my life, Wanted to change it up . -
@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
SO, Conversation started that I should try coding.
Right, so this is the base starting point. You DID know what you wanted to do... to "try coding." That's totally different than saying you didn't know what you wanted to do. It might not be much, but it is an extremely clear direction.
So if this is true, then it tells you a LOT of where to start.
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@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
I dont actually know what I want to learn.
Is this actually true? You weren't interesting in learning to code, but just stumbled on a coding site and went with the non-coding stuff? This doesn't match your other statements of being told to try coding and then going to look to learn to code.
If you were trying to learn to code... that leads you down one path.
If you weren't trying to learn to code and were just looking for general education of any kind, then it leads you somewhere completely different.
SO, Conversation started that I should try coding.
The person I was talking to suggested trying something free - So i googled "Free Coding" and Free Code Camp popped up.
I found a lot of people liked it on different websites so I popped in and started up.
Am I interested in learning code? Yes, I've had an interest in writing code for a while.
I've tried several different sites in the past and then something else came along.
I just figured I'd give it another try now that I am more comfortable with things in my life, Wanted to change it up .Honestly, just think of something you want to accomplish it and figure out a way to do it. Doing a bunch of examples and tutorials isn't going to get you far. You need an objective, and "learning" isn't it. Once you start doing it to produce something, you'll learn everything you need.
My first programming, beyond just playing around with the basics, was making a website that had tools to calculate different things for this RTS/MMO game I used to play. LAMP stack stuff.
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@bnrstnr said in Where to read Code?:
You need an objective, and "learning" isn't it.
This is amazingly true. Coding is SO hard to learn "in a vacuum." But decently easy to learn when there is a reason.
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@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
@bnrstnr said in Where to read Code?:
@WrCombs I just came across this, too
https://github.com/collections/learn-to-codeLOL I am using free code camp right now for learning Html5/html, and CSS is what i'm currently on
Try the the SoloLearn app on your phone. It's a really great place to start.
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@Obsolesce said in Where to read Code?:
@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
@bnrstnr said in Where to read Code?:
@WrCombs I just came across this, too
https://github.com/collections/learn-to-codeLOL I am using free code camp right now for learning Html5/html, and CSS is what i'm currently on
Try the the SoloLearn app on your phone. It's a really great place to start.
Also available on your desktop..
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@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
@DustinB3403 said in Where to read Code?:
@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
is that open source ?
I've heard the name a few times but never really messed with it.Is GitHub open source. . . .?
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I use GitLab and GitHub both a lot, almost equally. I like GitHub a lot more. If you want to host your own, then you use GitLab unless you get GitHub Enterprise which is excellent. Otherwise, GitHub IMHO.
I know quite a few bandwagoneers kneejerked over to GitLab when Microsoft bought GitHub, but it's really still the same as it's always been except now it's better.
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@Obsolesce said in Where to read Code?:
I know quite a few bandwagoneers kneejerked over to GitLab when Microsoft bought GitHub
No one around here. Everyone I know was on GitLab already when GitHub got bought out.
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@Obsolesce said in Where to read Code?:
but it's really still the same as it's always been except now it's better.
Actually I see the opposite... people flocking to GitHub after the acquisition that didn't before. Because GitLab was always free, but GitHub was only free for private repos after the acquisition. So the big userbase of GitLab couldn't use GitHub until recently. If anything, I see the bandwagoners going to GitHub now.
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
I mean - you said they're good for getting basic concepts and syntax correct, So It's not a terrible thing to start with , never coding really a day in my life?
Remember that all the world's coders that aren't super young all learned to code before HTML existed. There was no reason or concept of using formatting documents as a way to learn to write algorithms. Once you know what coding actually is, you'll be like "oh, yeah, that taught me nothing that wasn't just common sense basics." Everything you are learning in HTML and CSS at this point is totally specific to HTML and CSS and you are way past any overlapping skills like typing, formatting, and copying.
I think learning to code today is way better than if you learned in the 80s or 90s. So many resources and tools.
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@Obsolesce said in Where to read Code?:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
I mean - you said they're good for getting basic concepts and syntax correct, So It's not a terrible thing to start with , never coding really a day in my life?
Remember that all the world's coders that aren't super young all learned to code before HTML existed. There was no reason or concept of using formatting documents as a way to learn to write algorithms. Once you know what coding actually is, you'll be like "oh, yeah, that taught me nothing that wasn't just common sense basics." Everything you are learning in HTML and CSS at this point is totally specific to HTML and CSS and you are way past any overlapping skills like typing, formatting, and copying.
I think learning to code today is way better than if you learned in the 80s or 90s. So many resources and tools.
Tell me about it. I had to actually leave the house and go to this building called a library.
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
https://mangolassi.it/topic/3428/web-resources-for-learning-python
Where's my dipping toes into programming thread? Some good stuff in there.
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@Obsolesce said in Where to read Code?:
I think learning to code today is way better than if you learned in the 80s or 90s. So many resources and tools.
And so many more languages. There are loads of better things today. Although also so many distractions. When I learned to code I had a book and a text editor. Clean, simple, obvious. Today people start learning with so many abstractions that they often don't know what is and isn't their code, what is the language and what is a framework, where their code lives, if it is compiled, etc. To people who know what's going on, these tools are amazing. To someone looking to learn, there is so much "fluff" between them and the task that they want to learn that it can be hard to even find a coding resource.
You could spend a month just learning non-coding skills, installing special ARM hardware, twiddling with special use case IDEs, getting frameworks running, uploading boilerplate files to repos, setting up a continuous integration chain, and suddenly realize you've never even learned what code is yet.
Coding has gotten a lot more powerful, but also a lot more distracting.
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@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
@bnrstnr said in Where to read Code?:
He seems to be really wanting to learn web stuffs, why not learn PHP?
I dont actually know what I want to learn.
I was just trying looking for something to try and free code camp popped up and I figured i'd give it a try.
HTML/HTML5 CSS etc was just what the curriculum started with..
nothing intention - Just kind of happened so i rolled with itThere are some edX courses you can do for free that teach a language with Html and CSS, like Javascript and node. I think some Python too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
@bnrstnr said in Where to read Code?:
You need an objective, and "learning" isn't it.
This is amazingly true. Coding is SO hard to learn "in a vacuum." But decently easy to learn when there is a reason.
I learned by thinking of some project to do as I learn. Figuring out things as you need as well.
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@Obsolesce said in Where to read Code?:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
@bnrstnr said in Where to read Code?:
You need an objective, and "learning" isn't it.
This is amazingly true. Coding is SO hard to learn "in a vacuum." But decently easy to learn when there is a reason.
I learned by thinking of some project to do as I learn. Figuring out things as you need as well.
If you know nothing at all about coding in any language - you're advice is " just go do it"?
Without even know the basic's of how to make something Print such as (in python3)print("Hello ML")you don't think someone should atleast learn basics before starting on actual projects?
also - Any ideas on a project i can work on with python? ( I took SAM's advice and started playing with Python - funny enough, It comes kind of naturally.
what software do you use to write code?
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@WrCombs said in Where to read Code?:
@Obsolesce said in Where to read Code?:
@scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code?:
@bnrstnr said in Where to read Code?:
You need an objective, and "learning" isn't it.
This is amazingly true. Coding is SO hard to learn "in a vacuum." But decently easy to learn when there is a reason.
I learned by thinking of some project to do as I learn. Figuring out things as you need as well.
If you know nothing at all about coding in any language - you're advice is " just go do it"?
Without even know the basic's of how to make something Print such as (in python3)print("Hello ML")you don't think someone should atleast learn basics before starting on actual projects?
The thing is, while you do have to learn the basics, they apply to almost every other language as well.
IE: c code for your print statement is
printf("Hello ML");Once you learn the logic to a programming language, learning other languages is mostly just a matter of how they want things formatted.
