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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
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      While robo calls will never go away, validating caller ID will kill the worst of it because it will make it easier to track.

      If the US ever passes laws requiring carriers with US presence to require it, that will be the first step.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

        While robo calls will never go away, validating caller ID will kill the worst of it because it will make it easier to track.

        If the US ever passes laws requiring carriers with US presence to require it, that will be the first step.

        Yeah, rather fixable in reality.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @mlnews
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          @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

          Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

          Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

            @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

            Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

            Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

            Actually, the spammers can get through that, but rarely do they bother to program that.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

              @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

              @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

              Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

              Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

              Actually, the spammers can get through that, but rarely do they bother to program that.

              Can, sure, but I've yet to have it happen.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                Or a call screening app. Google's Call Screening on my Pixel has cut the number of calls I get in half.

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                • CCWTechC
                  CCWTech @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                  @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                  Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                  Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                  Same here. Surprised they don't get past it but for now that seems to be working.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @CCWTech
                    last edited by

                    @CCWTech said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                    @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                    @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                    Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                    Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                    Same here. Surprised they don't get past it but for now that seems to be working.

                    To reach Scott, press the square root of four.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                      @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                      @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                      Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                      Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                      Or a call screening app. Google's Call Screening on my Pixel has cut the number of calls I get in half.

                      Not on your life.

                      You realize how those work right?

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m @dafyre
                        last edited by

                        @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                        @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                        @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                        Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                        Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                        Or a call screening app. Google's Call Screening on my Pixel has cut the number of calls I get in half.

                        Is this only for Google's own phones? I searched play for google call screening but didn't see anything from them.

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                        • wrx7mW
                          wrx7m @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                          @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                          @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                          @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                          Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                          Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                          Or a call screening app. Google's Call Screening on my Pixel has cut the number of calls I get in half.

                          Not on your life.

                          You realize how those work right?

                          How do they work?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                            last edited by

                            @wrx7m said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                            @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                            @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                            @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                            Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                            Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                            Or a call screening app. Google's Call Screening on my Pixel has cut the number of calls I get in half.

                            Is this only for Google's own phones? I searched play for google call screening but didn't see anything from them.

                            I've never seen it. I have a Samsung.

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                            • wrx7mW
                              wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                              @wrx7m said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                              @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                              @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                              @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                              Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                              Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                              Or a call screening app. Google's Call Screening on my Pixel has cut the number of calls I get in half.

                              Is this only for Google's own phones? I searched play for google call screening but didn't see anything from them.

                              I've never seen it. I have a Samsung.

                              Same here.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @wrx7m
                                last edited by

                                @wrx7m said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                @JaredBusch said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                                Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                                Or a call screening app. Google's Call Screening on my Pixel has cut the number of calls I get in half.

                                Not on your life.

                                You realize how those work right?

                                How do they work?

                                All of these apps work by checking the inbound CID against their blacklist.

                                This means you have given the app developers 100% access to all inbound CID that hit your device.

                                Fuck that.

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                  @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                  @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                  Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                                  Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                                  Or a call screening app. Google's Call Screening on my Pixel has cut the number of calls I get in half.

                                  Not on your life.

                                  You realize how those work right?

                                  Have you actually used the Google Call Screening? It actually plays a message if it doesn't recognize the number from your contacts list and tells them that you are using the Google Call Screening... If they actually "listen" to the greeting, then they can state why they called and you can answer the call if it's actually somebody you want to talk to, or let them leave a voicemail.

                                  I was getting 3 or 4 calls a day about 2 months ago. Now I'm getting like 6 or 7 a week.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Pretty much available for no one...

                                    https://www.techradar.com/news/moto-g7-is-the-next-phone-to-get-googles-call-screening-feature

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      I thought it had been rolled out to more Android phones. I haven't been keeping up with it since it showed up on mine, lol.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                        last edited by

                                        @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                        I thought it had been rolled out to more Android phones. I haven't been keeping up with it since it showed up on mine, lol.

                                        What do you have?

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                          @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                          I thought it had been rolled out to more Android phones. I haven't been keeping up with it since it showed up on mine, lol.

                                          What do you have?

                                          Pixel XL

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @dafyre
                                            last edited by

                                            @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                            @JaredBusch said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                            @dafyre said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                            @mlnews said in The robocall crisis will never totally be fixed:

                                            Years into the robocalling frenzy, your phone probably still rings off the hook with "important information about your account," updates from the "Chinese embassy," and every bogus sweepstakes offer imaginable.

                                            Not if you have an IVR that makes you hit a button to get through. My robo calls are zero 🙂

                                            Or a call screening app. Google's Call Screening on my Pixel has cut the number of calls I get in half.

                                            Not on your life.

                                            You realize how those work right?

                                            Have you actually used the Google Call Screening? It actually plays a message if it doesn't recognize the number from your contacts list and tells them that you are using the Google Call Screening... If they actually "listen" to the greeting, then they can state why they called and you can answer the call if it's actually somebody you want to talk to, or let them leave a voicemail.

                                            I was getting 3 or 4 calls a day about 2 months ago. Now I'm getting like 6 or 7 a week.

                                            FFS, are you just stupid?

                                            How can it decide what to do if you don't grant it access to all inbound CID?

                                            What happens after it gets that information will be up to the app developer. But that has nothing to do with what I stated.

                                            This is she same reason I never used Google Voice after giving it a trial and learning how it worked (it is jsut a call forwarding service). They absolutely don't need to know all the people that call me.

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