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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Fully open source, active development, easy to support, strong integrations, good mobile clients (also free and open), runs on pretty much any free OS you'd reasonably want to use, good desktop Electron based client, interface is fast and responsive.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates
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        We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

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        • KellyK
          Kelly @stacksofplates
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          @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

          We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

          I ended up rolling out Mattermost at my last workplace. I didn't do any testing of Rocketchat because Mattermost checked all of our boxes. It was fast, clean, stable, had all of the clients that we needed (Windows, Mac, Linux), and the documentation was solid. I wished that 3rd party authentication (AD in our case) wasn't a pay feature, but that was a minimal consideration at our size.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @stacksofplates
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            @stacksofplates That's the next one I'm going to spin up. I really wish there were better options for referencing things in a chat setting--kind of like the way Nextcloud does tagging (testing star messages literally as we speak). If someone gives me an important piece of info I don't want to have to search for it. I'd also like subchannels. If I have a medical group that has more than one site, I'd like a channel for the medical group and a subchannel for each site. Can Mattermost do any of that?

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @Kelly
              last edited by wirestyle22

              @kelly said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

              @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

              We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

              I ended up rolling out Mattermost at my last workplace. I didn't do any testing of Rocketchat because Mattermost checked all of our boxes. It was fast, clean, stable, had all of the clients that we needed (Windows, Mac, Linux), and the documentation was solid. I wished that 3rd party authentication (AD in our case) wasn't a pay feature, but that was a minimal consideration at our size.

              RocketChat has LDAP functionality for free

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Kelly
                last edited by

                @kelly said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

                I ended up rolling out Mattermost at my last workplace. I didn't do any testing of Rocketchat because Mattermost checked all of our boxes. It was fast, clean, stable, had all of the clients that we needed (Windows, Mac, Linux), and the documentation was solid. I wished that 3rd party authentication (AD in our case) wasn't a pay feature, but that was a minimal consideration at our size.

                We get that all with Rocket.Chat, all of it, for free. I didn't realize Mattermost had "pay only" features, that's a huge reason I'm glad that we didn't go with them. Overall, they were so close it was hard to tell which one to prefer. Rocket seems to have pulled ahead of Mattermost in popularity and being completely free makes a bit difference.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                  @stacksofplates That's the next one I'm going to spin up. I really wish there were better options for referencing things in a chat setting--kind of like the way Nextcloud does tagging (testing star messages literally as we speak). If someone gives me an important piece of info I don't want to have to search for it. I'd also like subchannels. If I have a medical group that has more than one site, I'd like a channel for the medical group and a subchannel for each site. Can Mattermost do any of that?

                  You mean groups under groups?

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by wirestyle22

                    @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                    @wirestyle22 said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                    @stacksofplates That's the next one I'm going to spin up. I really wish there were better options for referencing things in a chat setting--kind of like the way Nextcloud does tagging (testing star messages literally as we speak). If someone gives me an important piece of info I don't want to have to search for it. I'd also like subchannels. If I have a medical group that has more than one site, I'd like a channel for the medical group and a subchannel for each site. Can Mattermost do any of that?

                    You mean groups under groups?

                    Yeah. Sometimes they are channels. Sometimes they are groups

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by stacksofplates

                      @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                      @kelly said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                      @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                      We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

                      I ended up rolling out Mattermost at my last workplace. I didn't do any testing of Rocketchat because Mattermost checked all of our boxes. It was fast, clean, stable, had all of the clients that we needed (Windows, Mac, Linux), and the documentation was solid. I wished that 3rd party authentication (AD in our case) wasn't a pay feature, but that was a minimal consideration at our size.

                      We get that all with Rocket.Chat, all of it, for free. I didn't realize Mattermost had "pay only" features, that's a huge reason I'm glad that we didn't go with them. Overall, they were so close it was hard to tell which one to prefer. Rocket seems to have pulled ahead of Mattermost in popularity and being completely free makes a bit difference.

                      It looks like it's just "AD/LDAP". GitLab has Mattermost integrated natively and you can use it as an OAUTH provider. So OAUTH is definitely free (which is the better way to go anyway).

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                        @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                        @kelly said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                        @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                        We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

                        I ended up rolling out Mattermost at my last workplace. I didn't do any testing of Rocketchat because Mattermost checked all of our boxes. It was fast, clean, stable, had all of the clients that we needed (Windows, Mac, Linux), and the documentation was solid. I wished that 3rd party authentication (AD in our case) wasn't a pay feature, but that was a minimal consideration at our size.

                        We get that all with Rocket.Chat, all of it, for free. I didn't realize Mattermost had "pay only" features, that's a huge reason I'm glad that we didn't go with them. Overall, they were so close it was hard to tell which one to prefer. Rocket seems to have pulled ahead of Mattermost in popularity and being completely free makes a bit difference.

                        It looks like it's just "AD/LDAP". GitLab has Mattermost integrated natively and you can use it as an OAUTH provider. So OAUTH is definitely free (which is the better way to go anyway).

                        Oh, OAUTH is really nice.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                          @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                          @kelly said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                          @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                          We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

                          I ended up rolling out Mattermost at my last workplace. I didn't do any testing of Rocketchat because Mattermost checked all of our boxes. It was fast, clean, stable, had all of the clients that we needed (Windows, Mac, Linux), and the documentation was solid. I wished that 3rd party authentication (AD in our case) wasn't a pay feature, but that was a minimal consideration at our size.

                          We get that all with Rocket.Chat, all of it, for free. I didn't realize Mattermost had "pay only" features, that's a huge reason I'm glad that we didn't go with them. Overall, they were so close it was hard to tell which one to prefer. Rocket seems to have pulled ahead of Mattermost in popularity and being completely free makes a bit difference.

                          It looks like it's just "AD/LDAP". GitLab has Mattermost integrated natively and you can use it as an OAUTH provider. So OAUTH is definitely free (which is the better way to go anyway).

                          Oh, OAUTH is really nice.

                          RocketChat supports OAUTH as well I believe. I doubt my company would allow it though. They are in love with AD

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                          • stacksofplatesS
                            stacksofplates @wirestyle22
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                            @wirestyle22 said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                            @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                            @kelly said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                            @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                            We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

                            I ended up rolling out Mattermost at my last workplace. I didn't do any testing of Rocketchat because Mattermost checked all of our boxes. It was fast, clean, stable, had all of the clients that we needed (Windows, Mac, Linux), and the documentation was solid. I wished that 3rd party authentication (AD in our case) wasn't a pay feature, but that was a minimal consideration at our size.

                            We get that all with Rocket.Chat, all of it, for free. I didn't realize Mattermost had "pay only" features, that's a huge reason I'm glad that we didn't go with them. Overall, they were so close it was hard to tell which one to prefer. Rocket seems to have pulled ahead of Mattermost in popularity and being completely free makes a bit difference.

                            It looks like it's just "AD/LDAP". GitLab has Mattermost integrated natively and you can use it as an OAUTH provider. So OAUTH is definitely free (which is the better way to go anyway).

                            Oh, OAUTH is really nice.

                            RocketChat supports OAUTH as well I believe. I doubt my company would allow it though. They are in love with AD

                            They aren't mutually exclusive.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @stacksofplates
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                              @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                              @wirestyle22 said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                              @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                              @kelly said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                              @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                              We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

                              I ended up rolling out Mattermost at my last workplace. I didn't do any testing of Rocketchat because Mattermost checked all of our boxes. It was fast, clean, stable, had all of the clients that we needed (Windows, Mac, Linux), and the documentation was solid. I wished that 3rd party authentication (AD in our case) wasn't a pay feature, but that was a minimal consideration at our size.

                              We get that all with Rocket.Chat, all of it, for free. I didn't realize Mattermost had "pay only" features, that's a huge reason I'm glad that we didn't go with them. Overall, they were so close it was hard to tell which one to prefer. Rocket seems to have pulled ahead of Mattermost in popularity and being completely free makes a bit difference.

                              It looks like it's just "AD/LDAP". GitLab has Mattermost integrated natively and you can use it as an OAUTH provider. So OAUTH is definitely free (which is the better way to go anyway).

                              Oh, OAUTH is really nice.

                              RocketChat supports OAUTH as well I believe. I doubt my company would allow it though. They are in love with AD

                              They aren't mutually exclusive.

                              I just mean they wouldn't allow OAUTH even though you're saying its superior. Can't use AD for free with Mattermost, so kind of counts it out unfortunately. At least for now.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @wirestyle22
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                                @wirestyle22 said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                @wirestyle22 said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                @kelly said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

                                I ended up rolling out Mattermost at my last workplace. I didn't do any testing of Rocketchat because Mattermost checked all of our boxes. It was fast, clean, stable, had all of the clients that we needed (Windows, Mac, Linux), and the documentation was solid. I wished that 3rd party authentication (AD in our case) wasn't a pay feature, but that was a minimal consideration at our size.

                                We get that all with Rocket.Chat, all of it, for free. I didn't realize Mattermost had "pay only" features, that's a huge reason I'm glad that we didn't go with them. Overall, they were so close it was hard to tell which one to prefer. Rocket seems to have pulled ahead of Mattermost in popularity and being completely free makes a bit difference.

                                It looks like it's just "AD/LDAP". GitLab has Mattermost integrated natively and you can use it as an OAUTH provider. So OAUTH is definitely free (which is the better way to go anyway).

                                Oh, OAUTH is really nice.

                                RocketChat supports OAUTH as well I believe. I doubt my company would allow it though. They are in love with AD

                                They aren't mutually exclusive.

                                I just mean they wouldn't allow OAUTH even though you're saying its superior. Can't use AD for free with Mattermost, so kind of counts it out unfortunately. At least for now.

                                I'm saying you can use OAUTH with AD.

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @stacksofplates
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                                  @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                  @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                  @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                  @kelly said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                  @stacksofplates said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                  We use Mattermost at work. I can't say much for RocketChat, but I do really like Mattermost. I'm a fan of the IRC style chat apps and the ability to add them into automation and such.

                                  I ended up rolling out Mattermost at my last workplace. I didn't do any testing of Rocketchat because Mattermost checked all of our boxes. It was fast, clean, stable, had all of the clients that we needed (Windows, Mac, Linux), and the documentation was solid. I wished that 3rd party authentication (AD in our case) wasn't a pay feature, but that was a minimal consideration at our size.

                                  We get that all with Rocket.Chat, all of it, for free. I didn't realize Mattermost had "pay only" features, that's a huge reason I'm glad that we didn't go with them. Overall, they were so close it was hard to tell which one to prefer. Rocket seems to have pulled ahead of Mattermost in popularity and being completely free makes a bit difference.

                                  It looks like it's just "AD/LDAP". GitLab has Mattermost integrated natively and you can use it as an OAUTH provider. So OAUTH is definitely free (which is the better way to go anyway).

                                  Oh, OAUTH is really nice.

                                  RocketChat supports OAUTH as well I believe. I doubt my company would allow it though. They are in love with AD

                                  They aren't mutually exclusive.

                                  I just mean they wouldn't allow OAUTH even though you're saying its superior. Can't use AD for free with Mattermost, so kind of counts it out unfortunately. At least for now.

                                  I'm saying you can use OAUTH with AD.

                                  Right. I'm not arguing, I understand

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                                  • Emad RE
                                    Emad R @wirestyle22
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                                    @wirestyle22

                                    Nothing, it is very slow. I mean last time I used it, i figured also their marketing recommends it for less than 100 users.

                                    That said I support sites with slow bandwidth, so Pidgin/OpenFire usually works best but it is very basic.

                                    It is good cause of being an easy snap install, but if I were you I would steer away from the DB engine that RC uses and use Zulip or Mattermost

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                                    • NashBrydgesN
                                      NashBrydges
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                                      Has anyone looked at this yet?

                                      https://nextcloud.com/blog/rocket.chat-and-nextcloud-announce-partnership-and-integration/

                                      Things that bugged me about Mattermost...

                                      • Limit on the number of characters in a channel name. Last I had it running, it was too short to be useful...like 20 characters only.
                                      • Deleted channels did not also delete files so any files you had uploaded would permanently remain on the server. I think that's still the case. Have not tested whether that also exists with RocketChat.
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                                      • wirestyle22W
                                        wirestyle22 @NashBrydges
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                                        @nashbrydges said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                        Deleted channels did not also delete files so any files you had uploaded would permanently remain on the server. I think that's still the case. Have not tested whether that also exists with RocketChat.

                                        It doesn't.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @Emad R
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                                          @emad-r said in What makes RocketChat appealing to you?:

                                          @wirestyle22

                                          Nothing, it is very slow. I mean last time I used it, i figured also their marketing recommends it for less than 100 users.

                                          That said I support sites with slow bandwidth, so Pidgin/OpenFire usually works best but it is very basic.

                                          It is good cause of being an easy snap install, but if I were you I would steer away from the DB engine that RC uses and use Zulip or Mattermost

                                          ?

                                          The test server rocket chat uses has over 200k users on it

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22
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                                            Zulip actually does have subchannels too. Gotta test

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