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    Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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      @obsolesce said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

      @scottalanmiller lol wow.

      Yeah, pretty silly.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

        Tested media and ran again...

        0_1532973414076_Screenshot from 2018-07-30 12-56-35.png

        Did you try the text mode install? Boot menu Troubleshooting -> Install Fedora 28 in basic graphics mode

        Boom shaka laka. That works, well got farther anyway. But it didn't go into text mode!

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        • coliverC
          coliver
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          Almost sounds like you need a network KVM of some sort to get a remote console.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @coliver
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            @coliver said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

            Almost sounds like you need a network KVM of some sort to get a remote console.

            We have, it's the iDRAC9. We have remote everything now.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

              @coliver said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

              Almost sounds like you need a network KVM of some sort to get a remote console.

              We have, it's the iDRAC9. We have remote everything now.

              Ah got it.

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                @travisdh1 said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                Tested media and ran again...

                0_1532973414076_Screenshot from 2018-07-30 12-56-35.png

                Did you try the text mode install? Boot menu Troubleshooting -> Install Fedora 28 in basic graphics mode

                Boom shaka laka. That works, well got farther anyway. But it didn't go into text mode!

                Huh, they must've changed that in 28 then, because I know I had the old text only installer in 27 a number of times.

                One step at a time. That was always the way to go for the older servers I had access to (Dell R900 and R520 boxes.)

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                  @travisdh1 said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                  Tested media and ran again...

                  0_1532973414076_Screenshot from 2018-07-30 12-56-35.png

                  Did you try the text mode install? Boot menu Troubleshooting -> Install Fedora 28 in basic graphics mode

                  Boom shaka laka. That works, well got farther anyway. But it didn't go into text mode!

                  Huh, they must've changed that in 28 then, because I know I had the old text only installer in 27 a number of times.

                  One step at a time. That was always the way to go for the older servers I had access to (Dell R900 and R520 boxes.)

                  It SAYS text installer. But goes immediately to a GUI.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce
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                    what CPU does your server have?

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                      I tried installing Fedora 28 on an old HP server a couple of weeks ago and the installer hanged itself in the same spot. I never tried text mode install with that one. Funny thing is that the latest Centos 7 behaved the same but Xenserver (xcp-ng 7.4) was a trouble-free installation. Debian 9.5 also worked (I always use the text installer by default).

                      It sounds far fetched but could the installation problem be graphics adapter related (with the Dell server)?

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @1337
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                        @pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                        It sounds far fetched but could the installation problem be graphics adapter related (with the Dell server)?

                        That's what I was getting at, to see what CPU it has with integrted graphics:

                        https://docs.fedoraproject.org/f28/release-notes/welcome/Hardware_Overview.html

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @1337
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                          @pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                          I tried installing Fedora 28 on an old HP server a couple of weeks ago and the installer hanged itself in the same spot. I never tried text mode install with that one. Funny thing is that the latest Centos 7 behaved the same but Xenserver (xcp-ng 7.4) was a trouble-free installation. Debian 9.5 also worked (I always use the text installer by default).

                          It sounds far fetched but could the installation problem be graphics adapter related (with the Dell server)?

                          I'd be surprised if that wasn't the problem. Servers tend to have some very old and crappy graphics cards by default, and, really, it should be that way. I can see that changing in the future, but it'll be a while yet.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                            @obsolesce said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                            @pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                            It sounds far fetched but could the installation problem be graphics adapter related (with the Dell server)?

                            That's what I was getting at, to see what CPU it has with integrted graphics:

                            https://docs.fedoraproject.org/f28/release-notes/welcome/Hardware_Overview.html

                            Fedora Server doesn't look for that stuff, though.

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                              1337 @travisdh1
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                              @travisdh1 In the past installers just used the VESA modes which works on just about anything. So even if it's old (or too new) it "should" still work.

                              If the installer tries to load proper drivers however, but fails, you might run into an installation problem. Has to be some kind of bug though.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                @obsolesce said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                @pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                It sounds far fetched but could the installation problem be graphics adapter related (with the Dell server)?

                                That's what I was getting at, to see what CPU it has with integrted graphics:

                                https://docs.fedoraproject.org/f28/release-notes/welcome/Hardware_Overview.html

                                Fedora Server doesn't look for that stuff, though.

                                If it's not graphics related, then the install GUI should show.

                                Try it on a working system just to see what the next step is, that's where it's being held up.

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @1337
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                                  @pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                  @travisdh1 In the past installers just used the VESA modes which works on just about anything. So even if it's old (or too new) it "should" still work.

                                  If the installer tries to load proper drivers however, but fails, you might run into an installation problem. Has to be some kind of bug though.

                                  You have seen how old those graphics adapters are, right? I remember one popular model on servers was originally a VESA adapter.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                    @obsolesce said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                    @obsolesce said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                    @pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                    It sounds far fetched but could the installation problem be graphics adapter related (with the Dell server)?

                                    That's what I was getting at, to see what CPU it has with integrted graphics:

                                    https://docs.fedoraproject.org/f28/release-notes/welcome/Hardware_Overview.html

                                    Fedora Server doesn't look for that stuff, though.

                                    If it's not graphics related, then the install GUI should show.

                                    Try it on a working system just to see what the next step is, that's where it's being held up.

                                    GUI DOES SHOW!!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                      @obsolesce said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                      @pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                      It sounds far fetched but could the installation problem be graphics adapter related (with the Dell server)?

                                      That's what I was getting at, to see what CPU it has with integrted graphics:

                                      https://docs.fedoraproject.org/f28/release-notes/welcome/Hardware_Overview.html

                                      I don't think any server CPUs have integrated graphics.

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                                        1337 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                        I don't think any server CPUs have integrated graphics.

                                        Xeon E3-1200 series with 5 at the end have integrated graphics, for instance E3-1285V6.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @1337
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                                          @pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                          I don't think any server CPUs have integrated graphics.

                                          Xeon E3-1200 series with 5 at the end have integrated graphics, for instance E3-1285V6.

                                          Wow, really? That's so weird.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                            @pete-s said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Fedora Install Issues on Dell PowerEdge R740:

                                            I don't think any server CPUs have integrated graphics.

                                            Xeon E3-1200 series with 5 at the end have integrated graphics, for instance E3-1285V6.

                                            Wow, really? That's so weird.

                                            Ah, so then it's on the board or chipset or whatever and not on most server class Xeons.

                                            Didn't know you were getting to the GUI... so all is well now? You got past the part in your original SS?

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