Cant communicate

Emad R

Safe mode with network ? what happens ?

What about try running the below before mount

@REM delete all previous network drives#
net use * /del /yes 

@REM purge cached Kerberos authentication tickets#
klist purge

@REM newer way of automating the removal of all stored credentials.
cmdkey.exe /list > "%TEMP%\List.txt"
findstr.exe Target "%TEMP%\List.txt" > "%TEMP%\tokensonly.txt"
FOR /F "tokens=1,2 delims= " %%G IN (%TEMP%\tokensonly.txt) DO cmdkey.exe /delete:%%H
del "%TEMP%\List.txt" /s /f /q
del "%TEMP%\tokensonly.txt" /s /f /q

@REM killing explorer last step to prepare for the actual share mount
taskkill /f /im explorer.exe & ping 127.0.0.1 -n 3 & start /im explorer.exe

WrCombs

@pete-s said in Cant communicate:

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

So it's the BOOTDRV share that the terminals connect to?

yes

So connecting to the back office server (with the right username replaced below) what was the response?
  net use \\192.168.128.xxx\BOOTDRV /user:username

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@dafyre said in Cant communicate:

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@dafyre said in Cant communicate:

Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

/me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

Well, lets check back in a couple of hours. Actually windows will reset some settings when you install some updates.

WrCombs

@pete-s said in Cant communicate:

@dafyre said in Cant communicate:

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@dafyre said in Cant communicate:

Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

/me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

Well, lets check back in a couple of hours. Actually windows will reset some settings when you install some updates.

Sounds like a plan.

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@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@pete-s said in Cant communicate:

@dafyre said in Cant communicate:

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@dafyre said in Cant communicate:

Did you check the accounts on the Backoffice server?

Guy on site is running window updates, apparently this pc has never been updated. He has control right now. Letting him do his thing.

/me puts on a dang helmet. Good luck!

Well, lets check back in a couple of hours. Actually windows will reset some settings when you install some updates.

Sounds like a plan.

Some of the next steps to troubleshoot are:

open the share on the back office server from the back office server itself (this eliminates the network outside the machine)
if above doesn't work check that the "File and Printer sharing from Microsoft Networks"-setting is enabled on the LAN interface properties.
install and run a portscanner from one terminal to see that the ports are actually open over the network.

Obsolesce

Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

But is 802.1x being used?

WrCombs

@obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

But is 802.1x being used?

802.1x ? What is that and why would it be used?

IEEE 802.1X is an IEEE Standard for port-based Network Access Control (PNAC). It is part of the IEEE 802.1 group of networking protocols. It provides an authentication mechanism to devices wishing to attach to a LAN or WLAN. This is what i get when i google 802.1x
Is this what youre talking about?

Obsolesce

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

But is 802.1x being used?

802.1x ? What is that and why would it be used?

IEEE 802.1X is an IEEE Standard for port-based Network Access Control (PNAC). It is part of the IEEE 802.1 group of networking protocols. It provides an authentication mechanism to devices wishing to attach to a LAN or WLAN. This is what i get when i google 802.1x
Is this what youre talking about?

Yes

WrCombs

@obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@obsolesce said in Cant communicate:

Didn't read al 65 posts above, so may have been mentioned or I may have missed something....

But is 802.1x being used?

802.1x ? What is that and why would it be used?

IEEE 802.1X is an IEEE Standard for port-based Network Access Control (PNAC). It is part of the IEEE 802.1 group of networking protocols. It provides an authentication mechanism to devices wishing to attach to a LAN or WLAN. This is what i get when i google 802.1x
Is this what youre talking about?

Yes

This is the first time im ever hearing of this so im sure the answer to that is no

Kelly

I'm facing a parallel issue where a workgroup share is inaccessible, so I've been doing a lot of testing. One of things I've noticed in my tests is that when the Windows Firewall is off then port 445 closes automatically. Have you tried it with the firewalls on, but with SMB-In configured properly in the firewall settings?

WrCombs

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

I'm facing a parallel issue where a workgroup share is inaccessible, so I've been doing a lot of testing. One of things I've noticed in my tests is that when the Windows Firewall is off then port 445 closes automatically. Have you tried it with the firewalls on, but with SMB-In configured properly in the firewall settings?

I have not..

Kelly

You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

WrCombs

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

Kelly

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

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@kelly said in Cant communicate:

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

Kelly

@pete-s said in Cant communicate:

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

I would use Nmap on my system, but for troubleshooting a client machine I'd rather use something lighter and faster. YMMV

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@kelly said in Cant communicate:

@pete-s said in Cant communicate:

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

I would use Nmap on my system, but for troubleshooting a client machine I'd rather use something lighter and faster. YMMV

Yes, but installing the complete openssh server on windows isn't light weight.
For telnet and ssh client it's better to just run putty.exe in that case.
https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.html

Kelly

@pete-s said in Cant communicate:

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

@pete-s said in Cant communicate:

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

@wrcombs said in Cant communicate:

@kelly said in Cant communicate:

You can test the port using telnet or ssh (assuming you have either installed on a client). It will at least tell you if you can reach the port.

I dont believe i have either installed on the client side

https://chocolatey.org/packages/openssh

Better to use a port scanner, for instance nmap for windows. https://nmap.org/download.html

I would use Nmap on my system, but for troubleshooting a client machine I'd rather use something lighter and faster. YMMV

Yes, but installing the complete openssh server on windows isn't light weight.
For telnet and ssh client it's better to just run putty.exe in that case.
https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.html

Putty used to have less than helpful error messages. It looks like that has changed since the last time I used it. Either way, I'm done arguing with you.

dafyre

If the terminals are Windows XP, then telnet is installed by default. In Windows 7, it can be installed, or you can get Putty Portable or something like that.

WrCombs

@dafyre said in Cant communicate:

If the terminals are Windows XP, then telnet is installed by default. In Windows 7, it can be installed, or you can get Putty Portable or something like that.

One terminal is Windows XP