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    • mlnewsM
      mlnews
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      Mark Zuckerberg apologizes.... by newspaper?

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        The BBC has seen evidence suggesting that Cambridge Analytica's parent company boasted of interfering with elections.

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          Herring may be a big winner from pollution.

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            mlnews
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            Oh look, Corbyn caught up in anti-semitism row just a day after he fires someone for wanting some semblance of democracy.

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            • coliverC
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              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/feds-pushing-new-plan-for-encrypted-mobile-device-unlocks-via-court-order/#p3

              So the same thing they have been trying to do for the last decade? How is this proposal any different?

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              • nadnerBN
                nadnerB @coliver
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                @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/feds-pushing-new-plan-for-encrypted-mobile-device-unlocks-via-court-order/#p3

                So the same thing they have been trying to do for the last decade? How is this proposal any different?

                Different font?

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @nadnerB
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                  @nadnerb said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  @coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:

                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/feds-pushing-new-plan-for-encrypted-mobile-device-unlocks-via-court-order/#p3

                  So the same thing they have been trying to do for the last decade? How is this proposal any different?

                  Different font?

                  Bonus points to them if they send it out in Comic Sans.

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                  • black3dynamiteB
                    black3dynamite
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                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/03/25/american-family-vacationing-in-mexico-died-from-gas-asphyxiation-officials-say/

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                      @black3dynamite said in Non-IT News Thread:

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/03/25/american-family-vacationing-in-mexico-died-from-gas-asphyxiation-officials-say/

                      That is so sad 😞

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                      • mlnewsM
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                        US joines EU in expelling Russian diplomats.

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                          Uber leaving markets such as SE Asia as they are losing $1bn a quarter.

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                            DustinB3403 @mlnews
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                            @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                            Uber leaving markets such as SE Asia as they are losing $1bn a quarter.

                            I can't begin to understand how a business spends 1-billion a quarter for something as simple as ride-sharing. . .

                            What kind of opex is occurring here?!

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                            • KellyK
                              Kelly @DustinB3403
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                              @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                              Uber leaving markets such as SE Asia as they are losing $1bn a quarter.

                              I can't begin to understand how a business spends 1-billion a quarter for something as simple as ride-sharing. . .

                              What kind of opex is occurring here?!

                              Bribes most likely, but written down as something else.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Kelly
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                                @kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                Uber leaving markets such as SE Asia as they are losing $1bn a quarter.

                                I can't begin to understand how a business spends 1-billion a quarter for something as simple as ride-sharing. . .

                                What kind of opex is occurring here?!

                                Bribes most likely, but written down as something else.

                                A quarter!? How literally how the hell could that be. . .

                                At some point you just place a guy in the captains seat after expending so much. . .

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                  @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                  Uber leaving markets such as SE Asia as they are losing $1bn a quarter.

                                  I can't begin to understand how a business spends 1-billion a quarter for something as simple as ride-sharing. . .

                                  What kind of opex is occurring here?!

                                  This is how businesses work. They get billions in investment, and then they spend that money to grow the business. It's expected that you will lose that money. If they weren't going to lose it, they'd not have made it in the first place.

                                  It is an extremely rare business that can grow using only profits, because if they could, everyone would start zero risk, unlimited growth companies. This is where investments and risk come in.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                    @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @kelly said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                    Uber leaving markets such as SE Asia as they are losing $1bn a quarter.

                                    I can't begin to understand how a business spends 1-billion a quarter for something as simple as ride-sharing. . .

                                    What kind of opex is occurring here?!

                                    Bribes most likely, but written down as something else.

                                    A quarter!? How literally how the hell could that be. . .

                                    At some point you just place a guy in the captains seat after expending so much. . .

                                    That's a lot but not THAT much. Given the size and cost of Uber, it's not really all that much. Enough for them to worry, but not so much that it's crazy.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
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                                      Keep in mind that Uber currently earns $2.22 bn in the same period. So while losing $1bn is a big percentage, it's only so much. It's well within normal ranges of "what you spend to get bigger." If Uber doesn't expand, someone else will move into the markets where they want to operate.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                        Uber leaving markets such as SE Asia as they are losing $1bn a quarter.

                                        I can't begin to understand how a business spends 1-billion a quarter for something as simple as ride-sharing. . .

                                        What kind of opex is occurring here?!

                                        This is how businesses work. They get billions in investment, and then they spend that money to grow the business. It's expected that you will lose that money. If they weren't going to lose it, they'd not have made it in the first place.

                                        It is an extremely rare business that can grow using only profits, because if they could, everyone would start zero risk, unlimited growth companies. This is where investments and risk come in.

                                        I get start up risk and reward, but at this level? Uber and the others are simply ride-shares (cheap taxis so to speak). I just don't see how this level of spend, is in the realm of realistic for such a basic service.

                                        Does every Uber include WiFi and drinks and companionship for each customer?!

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                          @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          @mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                          Uber leaving markets such as SE Asia as they are losing $1bn a quarter.

                                          I can't begin to understand how a business spends 1-billion a quarter for something as simple as ride-sharing. . .

                                          What kind of opex is occurring here?!

                                          This is how businesses work. They get billions in investment, and then they spend that money to grow the business. It's expected that you will lose that money. If they weren't going to lose it, they'd not have made it in the first place.

                                          It is an extremely rare business that can grow using only profits, because if they could, everyone would start zero risk, unlimited growth companies. This is where investments and risk come in.

                                          I get start up risk and reward, but at this level?

                                          Less than 50% of revenue. That's not a high level.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                            @dustinb3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:

                                            Uber and the others are simply ride-shares (cheap taxis so to speak). I just don't see how this level of spend, is in the realm of realistic for such a basic service.

                                            I think that there is a massive disconnect here. What Uber does is insanely expensive. The scale of the tech, infrastructure, legal, marketing, sales, training, local coordination needed, plus R&D... there is a reason no one else did this for so long. This is one insanely expensive business to be in. The costs of being in just a single city is staggering. The amount of licensing and other needs are just crazy.

                                            Simple is the last thing you can use to describe Uber.

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