Windows on arm this quarter!

[momurda]

@tim_g Malware, it's malware all the way down.

[dafyre]

What are some of the actual benefits of this? ... Drawbacks?

[scottalanmiller]

@dafyre said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

What are some of the actual benefits of this? ... Drawbacks?

Benefit is lower power consumption and lower hardware costs. ARM procs are a better power/perf ration than AMD64 chips and are perfectly suited for the majority of desktop and especially laptop tasks. They also make it easier to make fanless and other speciality systems.

Downsides are less absolute power and a smaller ecosystem of binary packages available.

[momurda]

Here is an example of Windows store malware.
Goto the Windows Store and search for Opera Browser.

I dare anybody to install a single one of those on a computer.
Firefox search results

[Obsolesce]

@momurda said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

Here is an example of Windows store malware.
Goto the Windows Store and search for Opera Browser.

I dare anybody to install a single one of those on a computer.
Firefox search results

All the same or similar stuff is on Google Play Store.

Do you have the malware scan results that show it as malware?

[scottalanmiller]

@momurda said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

Here is an example of Windows store malware.
Goto the Windows Store and search for Opera Browser.

I dare anybody to install a single one of those on a computer.
Firefox search results

In reality, I believe that the Windows Store itself is a form of malware. It is undesirable, hostile software that attempts to convince you to install still more extensive hostile software.

[scottalanmiller]

@tim_g said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@momurda said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

Here is an example of Windows store malware.
Goto the Windows Store and search for Opera Browser.

I dare anybody to install a single one of those on a computer.
Firefox search results

All the same or similar stuff is on Google Play Store.

Do you have the malware scan results that show it as malware?

Scan results are not needed to determine that it is malware. It's software pretending to be something other than it is. That's malicious. Therefore malware.

[Obsolesce]

@scottalanmiller said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@momurda said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

Here is an example of Windows store malware.
Goto the Windows Store and search for Opera Browser.

I dare anybody to install a single one of those on a computer.
Firefox search results

In reality, I believe that the Windows Store itself is a form of malware. It is undesirable, hostile software that attempts to convince you to install still more extensive hostile software.

I feel all app stores are like that on every platform.

[scottalanmiller]

@tim_g said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@momurda said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

Here is an example of Windows store malware.
Goto the Windows Store and search for Opera Browser.

I dare anybody to install a single one of those on a computer.
Firefox search results

All the same or similar stuff is on Google Play Store.

Google Play Store is not pushed onto my desktop or forced to be integrated into my menu, though.

[scottalanmiller]

@tim_g said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@scottalanmiller said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@momurda said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

Here is an example of Windows store malware.
Goto the Windows Store and search for Opera Browser.

I dare anybody to install a single one of those on a computer.
Firefox search results

In reality, I believe that the Windows Store itself is a form of malware. It is undesirable, hostile software that attempts to convince you to install still more extensive hostile software.

I feel all app stores are like that on every platform.

Apple Store definitely is not. My Deepin Store is nothing like that.

[Obsolesce]

@scottalanmiller said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

It's software pretending to be something other than it is.

In that screenshot, which app is pretending to be Opera or Firefox? They all look clearly named.

It appears there is no "Opera Browser" or "Firefox" windows store app. So it's displaying results (apps) that have the word "browser" in it, and other web browsers, which are clearly not pretending to be Opera or Firefox.

Edit: many of those are also displayed in the Google Play Store as well... even more junk is in there than on Windows Store!

[Obsolesce]

@scottalanmiller said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@tim_g said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@momurda said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

Here is an example of Windows store malware.
Goto the Windows Store and search for Opera Browser.

I dare anybody to install a single one of those on a computer.
Firefox search results

All the same or similar stuff is on Google Play Store.

Google Play Store is not pushed onto my desktop or forced to be integrated into my menu, though.

True. Then if that is your definition of malware, the Windows Store is malware.

[scottalanmiller]

@tim_g said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@scottalanmiller said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@tim_g said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@momurda said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

Here is an example of Windows store malware.
Goto the Windows Store and search for Opera Browser.

I dare anybody to install a single one of those on a computer.
Firefox search results

All the same or similar stuff is on Google Play Store.

Google Play Store is not pushed onto my desktop or forced to be integrated into my menu, though.

True. Then if that is your definition of malware, the Windows Store is malware.

Yes, the key difference is that to use the Google Play Store I havev to intentionally do so. The Windows Store exclusively exists where I don't want it to. It pushes products for me to install against my will.

[Obsolesce]

@scottalanmiller said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@tim_g said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@scottalanmiller said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@tim_g said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

@momurda said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

Here is an example of Windows store malware.
Goto the Windows Store and search for Opera Browser.

I dare anybody to install a single one of those on a computer.
Firefox search results

All the same or similar stuff is on Google Play Store.

Google Play Store is not pushed onto my desktop or forced to be integrated into my menu, though.

True. Then if that is your definition of malware, the Windows Store is malware.

Yes, the key difference is that to use the Google Play Store I havev to intentionally do so. The Windows Store exclusively exists where I don't want it to. It pushes products for me to install against my will.

I will have to agree with that.

[momurda]

I might actually get one of these if it was possible to get one without LTE modem.

[scottalanmiller]

@momurda said in Windows on arm this quarter!:

I might actually get one of these if it was possible to get one without LTE modem.

Yes, I hate that those are so often bundled.

[scottalanmiller]

I really want an ARM desktop, not laptop.

[scottalanmiller]

I should say... I already have an ARM laptop and love it.