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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

      @nerdydad said in Need a host recommendation:

      @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

      Why two hosts if you are forbidden to use them for HA?

      He doesn't understand HA. He prefers IPOD because that is what he is familiar with.

      That's like being familiar with a car crash so refusing to drive on the road.

      😄

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      • NerdyDadN
        NerdyDad
        last edited by

        Okay. I'll blow it past him to see what he says.

        @scale What would you recommend with the specs above? PM me if necessary.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Have you looked at @xByteSean

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          • bbigfordB
            bbigford
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            Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?

            That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @bbigford
              last edited by Dashrender

              @bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:

              Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?

              That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."

              Lack of understanding or unwillingness to admit he did things wrong in the past.

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              • NerdyDadN
                NerdyDad @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @dashrender said in Need a host recommendation:

                @bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:

                Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?

                That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."

                Lack of understanding or willingness to admit he did things wrong in the past.

                Lack of understanding

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @bbigford
                  last edited by

                  @bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:

                  Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?

                  That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."

                  Right, cart before the horse. Deciding the solution without evaluating the problem.

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                  • Mike DavisM
                    Mike Davis
                    last edited by

                    Does the R630 chassis have enough bays for your storage? I don't see a total capacity for the SQL drives. You can pack 24 of the 1.8" drives in the thing, and I guess if money is no object 23TB of SSD should handle most loads.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
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                      FFS. You all need to just STFU about the money no limit and wtf no budget thing.

                      Nothing in his post insinuated either no money or unlimited money.

                      Just fuck....

                      He posted some light criteria and appropriately was not constraining himself to an arbitrary dollar figure for no reason.

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                      • Mike DavisM
                        Mike Davis @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @jaredbusch I don't know about the others, but I was making light of the fact that he stated how much RAM it needed to have, but not how much storage it needed. In a 1U chassis that can be an issue if you are trying to keep costs down with spinners instead of SSDs...

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          If you are going with Hyper-V Server then try and get the backplane drive some of the l Dell hardware has.

                          Drop you OS SATA disks on that and go to town.

                          This lets you just grab all SSD RAID5 for the array, assuming that it can meet your storage size needs.

                          It might only be the 2U models that have that.

                          Call XByte, then can make you magic.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                            @bbigford said in Need a host recommendation:

                            Why can it not be hyperconverged? How is that so explicitly stated when it could possibly be exactly what is needed?

                            That's like the boss saying "we don't want exactly what we need, even if it's cost effective. We want something else."

                            Right, cart before the horse. Deciding the solution without evaluating the problem.

                            But it is not relevant to his process because the constraint has been applied. Appropriately or not, it is there. He is at the point that he needs to find hardware to meet the specifications he has been handed.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                              @mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:

                              @jaredbusch I don't know about the others, but I was making light of the fact that he stated how much RAM it needed to have, but not how much storage it needed. In a 1U chassis that can be an issue if you are trying to keep costs down with spinners instead of SSDs...

                              In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.

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                              • Mike DavisM
                                Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.

                                in the very first post he said:
                                10k disk for VM OS
                                15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.

                                So that made me think local storage.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
                                  last edited by

                                  @mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                  In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.

                                  in the very first post he said:
                                  10k disk for VM OS
                                  15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.

                                  So that made me think local storage.

                                  Maybe I misunderstood, I thought that that was on the SAN.

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                    @mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                    In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.

                                    in the very first post he said:
                                    10k disk for VM OS
                                    15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.

                                    So that made me think local storage.

                                    Maybe I misunderstood, I thought that that was on the SAN.

                                    Nope. On the hosts. Local Storage. There is some DAS equipment currently connected but that is more for archiving and backups. That's it.

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                                    • Net RunnerN
                                      Net Runner
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                                      I've had a similar situation with one of my customers already a while ago. At the end of the day, I landed up with pre-built hyper-converged appliances (a pair of them). Since the budget was the main constraint and DELL was a requirement, I've purchased very customized servers by starwind https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-hyperconverged-appliance (almost no storage and powerful CPU for SQL). These were exactly DELL R630 (not sure if they still ship those) delivered by xByte. One is located in the server room on ground floor and the other one is 2 floors higher. Interconnection is 2 x 10 GBe links. Pretty happy so far.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
                                        last edited by

                                        @nerdydad said in Need a host recommendation:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                        @mike-davis said in Need a host recommendation:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Need a host recommendation:

                                        In theory, as an IPOD, it might need zero.

                                        in the very first post he said:
                                        10k disk for VM OS
                                        15k or SSD for SQL drives (RAID1 is an option, but RAID10 would be preferred). I'm sure RAID5 under SSD would possibly be acceptable.

                                        So that made me think local storage.

                                        Maybe I misunderstood, I thought that that was on the SAN.

                                        Nope. On the hosts. Local Storage. There is some DAS equipment currently connected but that is more for archiving and backups. That's it.

                                        Oh, ok. I'm so confused then, lol.

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