Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016
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So far, it looks like it will let me do what I want. (serv-nfs) Installed on Fedora 27 minimal from net install, plus a few necessities like Cockpit etc.
Now to fill the linuxbackups directory with a physical Linux server backup test:
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@tim_g late to party. can this help with your original plan?
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@matteo-nunziati said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g late to party. can this help with your original plan?
Yes, something like that but a little more current would have been perfect!
A lot less moving parts with something like that... I'd be able to cut out needing another VM and Yosemite license.
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@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@matteo-nunziati said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g late to party. can this help with your original plan?
Yes, something like that but a little more current would have been perfect!
A lot less moving parts with something like that... I'd be able to cut out needing another VM and Yosemite license.
Or just don't use Yosemite
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@dustinb3403 said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@matteo-nunziati said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g late to party. can this help with your original plan?
Yes, something like that but a little more current would have been perfect!
A lot less moving parts with something like that... I'd be able to cut out needing another VM and Yosemite license.
Or just don't use Yosemite
They stopped selling it, and they want to ride out this last year of support, which ends for everyone Sept 30th I think. Then we are forced to... which can't come soon enough.
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With less than 9 months to go, Now is the prefect time to be looking at, testing other options. It's kinda crazy to wait until sept to do that.
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@dashrender said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
With less than 9 months to go, Now is the prefect time to be looking at, testing other options. It's kinda crazy to wait until sept to do that.
Already tested and decided on several options, it comes down to budget, which is not decided by me.
My boss already has all he needs from me, with my recommendations and costs.
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@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@dustinb3403 said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@matteo-nunziati said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g late to party. can this help with your original plan?
Yes, something like that but a little more current would have been perfect!
A lot less moving parts with something like that... I'd be able to cut out needing another VM and Yosemite license.
Or just don't use Yosemite
They stopped selling it, and they want to ride out this last year of support, which ends for everyone Sept 30th I think. Then we are forced to... which can't come soon enough.
Sounds like it is time for Veeam.
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@scottalanmiller said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@dustinb3403 said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@matteo-nunziati said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g late to party. can this help with your original plan?
Yes, something like that but a little more current would have been perfect!
A lot less moving parts with something like that... I'd be able to cut out needing another VM and Yosemite license.
Or just don't use Yosemite
They stopped selling it, and they want to ride out this last year of support, which ends for everyone Sept 30th I think. Then we are forced to... which can't come soon enough.
Sounds like it is time for Veeam.
That's great backup software, but for us, it's twice as expensive as other options that tested just as good or better.
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I did a physical Linux server backup to the NFS share... it went at like 23-ish MB/sec.
I need to find the bottleneck. Perhaps it's just regular network congestion, I'm going to need to run another test while copying data in other places to compare speeds.
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I also tried a Tape backup last night... it ran. But on the NFS server it didn't because apparently Yosemite service wasn't set to start at boot, so I didn't realize it wasn't running before I ran the tape job...
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@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
I did a physical Linux server backup to the NFS share... it went at like 23-ish MB/sec.
I need to find the bottleneck. Perhaps it's just regular network congestion, I'm going to need to run another test while copying data in other places to compare speeds.
23MB/sec sounds about right if it's being pushed over a 1Gb network at some point.
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@travisdh1 said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
I did a physical Linux server backup to the NFS share... it went at like 23-ish MB/sec.
I need to find the bottleneck. Perhaps it's just regular network congestion, I'm going to need to run another test while copying data in other places to compare speeds.
23MB/sec sounds about right if it's being pushed over a 1Gb network at some point.
really? you only expect to get 184 Mb/s over 1 Gb network? I suppose if the ReaR process can't keep up (IOPs issue on server in question), that might be the case.
Tim - what speeds did you see in the past?
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@dashrender said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
Tim - what speeds did you see in the past?
I don't remember. When I originally set up the physical Linux servers to back up to an NFS share through HV06 on the MD1000, I looked then and must have been a number I expected, otherwise I'd remember more about it and done it a different way if the numbers were this low.
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Bleh, the stuff from the NFS share is going to Tape via network (3 GB/minute). The other stuff goes way faster (14 GB/minute), so I can tell that's going directly from MD1000 to tape through HV06 via SAS cable.
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@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
Bleh, the stuff from the NFS share is going to Tape via network (3 GB/minute). The other stuff goes way faster (14 GB/minute), so I can tell that's going directly from MD1000 to tape through HV06 via SAS cable.
So is the other one, it's just likely going through the vSwitch inside Hyper-V.
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@dashrender said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
Bleh, the stuff from the NFS share is going to Tape via network (3 GB/minute). The other stuff goes way faster (14 GB/minute), so I can tell that's going directly from MD1000 to tape through HV06 via SAS cable.
So is the other one, it's just likely going through the vSwitch inside Hyper-V.
No, there's no hyper-v involved between the Windows Server Backup data on the MD1000 and tape. HV06 pushes that data from the MD1000 through SAS all the way to the tape drive. That's going at 233 MB/s (1866 mbps), which is fitting for a 3gbps SAS backplane on the MD1000.
The data on the NFS share is going over the regular network from the VM. I'm just not sure the path it's taking. That it's only getting 50 MB/s over a 1gbps network tells me its making it's way (routing over) onto the regular network, somewhere between the VM and it's host. The fact that the NFS share needs to be accessible over the regular network limits me from being able to keep it internal only to the VM and host.
I'll have to think about it a little bit, I'm sure I can figure somethign out.
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@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@dashrender said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
Bleh, the stuff from the NFS share is going to Tape via network (3 GB/minute). The other stuff goes way faster (14 GB/minute), so I can tell that's going directly from MD1000 to tape through HV06 via SAS cable.
So is the other one, it's just likely going through the vSwitch inside Hyper-V.
No, there's no hyper-v involved between the Windows Server Backup data on the MD1000 and tape. HV06 pushes that data from the MD1000 through SAS all the way to the tape drive. That's going at 233 MB/s (1866 mbps), which is fitting for a 3gbps SAS backplane on the MD1000.
The data on the NFS share is going over the regular network from the VM. I'm just not sure the path it's taking. That it's only getting 50 MB/s over a 1gbps network tells me its making it's way (routing over) onto the regular network, somewhere between the VM and it's host. The fact that the NFS share needs to be accessible over the regular network limits me from being able to keep it internal only to the VM and host.
I'll have to think about it a little bit, I'm sure I can figure somethign out.
Hold on - The VM with your NFS share is on HV06, right? Assuming so, why would the data for the tape leave HV06, go on the network, then return to the box (not sure where it went to be send back to the box) to the Yosemite agent installed in Hyper-V which has access to the tape drive and written to tape.
Is that what you're saying?
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Again, assuming the VM with the NFS share is a VM on HV06, why wouldn't that VM just use the internal vSwitch to talk to the Yosemite agent on Hyper-V, which then writes to tape?
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@dashrender said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@dashrender said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
@tim_g said in Create NFS file share on Hyper-V Server 2016:
Bleh, the stuff from the NFS share is going to Tape via network (3 GB/minute). The other stuff goes way faster (14 GB/minute), so I can tell that's going directly from MD1000 to tape through HV06 via SAS cable.
So is the other one, it's just likely going through the vSwitch inside Hyper-V.
No, there's no hyper-v involved between the Windows Server Backup data on the MD1000 and tape. HV06 pushes that data from the MD1000 through SAS all the way to the tape drive. That's going at 233 MB/s (1866 mbps), which is fitting for a 3gbps SAS backplane on the MD1000.
The data on the NFS share is going over the regular network from the VM. I'm just not sure the path it's taking. That it's only getting 50 MB/s over a 1gbps network tells me its making it's way (routing over) onto the regular network, somewhere between the VM and it's host. The fact that the NFS share needs to be accessible over the regular network limits me from being able to keep it internal only to the VM and host.
I'll have to think about it a little bit, I'm sure I can figure somethign out.
Hold on - The VM with your NFS share is on HV06, right? Assuming so, why would the data for the tape leave HV06, go on the network, then return to the box (not sure where it went to be send back to the box) to the Yosemite agent installed in Hyper-V which has access to the tape drive and written to tape.
Is that what you're saying?
No idea, but yes, that's what I'm saying. The numbers are telling me that. 50 MB/s means data is definitely leaving HV06 for some reason before going to tape.
