What Are You Doing Right Now
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I think that this is worth a read. If I was the CEO and say this thread, I'd be pretty unhappy and definitely not give this guy access.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2104114-unique-situation-for-it
with the guy who posted or the it guy he had for years
The guy who posted sounds like he is crazy. The guy that has been there for years sounds reasonable.
The CEO is agreeing with my view, that the guy who has been around for years is to be trusted and the new guy demanding access and to spend money without justification should be blocked.
The main issue I ask here is - why was this guy hired? The OP clearly thinks he's god's gift to IT, but really, why was he hired?
Yes, I'm wondering that, too. He doesn't seem to know what he needs to know to do the job he thinks he is there to do. he doesn't even seem to know the meaning of his own title. The CEO clearly doesn't agree with his belief as to his role. Something is certainly wrong.
Maybe this guy is like an intern who is mad that he isn't the manager? He said himself, he's been in politics and not tech for some time now.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I think that this is worth a read. If I was the CEO and say this thread, I'd be pretty unhappy and definitely not give this guy access.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2104114-unique-situation-for-it
with the guy who posted or the it guy he had for years
The guy who posted sounds like he is crazy. The guy that has been there for years sounds reasonable.
The CEO is agreeing with my view, that the guy who has been around for years is to be trusted and the new guy demanding access and to spend money without justification should be blocked.
just finished reading and the guy that posted sure is complaining a whole lot. If it's working why fix it.
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@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If it's working why fix it.
Don't get stuck in that. Just because it's working doesn't make it sound. RAID 5 100 TB array might be working, but it's generally considered unsound, unless you just don't care about your data.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If it's working why fix it.
Don't get stuck in that. Just because it's working doesn't make it sound. RAID 5 100 TB array might be working, but it's generally considered unsound, unless you just don't care about your data.
True story.
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The oddest thing is he still hasn't responded. Seems like this would be a good time to justify/explain your comments and save some face. Or someone might send that thread to that users CEO.
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The oddest thing is he still hasn't responded. Seems like this would be a good time to justify/explain your comments and save some face. Or someone might send that thread to that users CEO.
The reality is that he will likely never respond because he's embarrassed now.
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@scottalanmiller I love when you said , "It's the CEO's network, the CEO's company. " I've met some people who have a power struggle about it.
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Bah! I missed a good thread.
I can empathize with having to wrap my head around "CEO's network / CEO's company" concept. Soon after transitioning into IT I realized our job isn't to protect the network from the company, but rather make the network do what the company needs. We do have a duty to warn the company if it has an idea that would be harmful to the network, but ultimately, the company decided what it wants to do with its network.
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@eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Bah! I missed a good thread.
I can empathize with having to wrap my head around "CEO's network / CEO's company" concept. Soon after transitioning into IT I realized our job isn't to protect the network from the company, but rather make the network do what the company needs. We do have a duty to warn the company if it has an idea that would be harmful to the network, but ultimately, the company decided what it wants to do with its network.
I think this has a lot to do with where you are the company. If you are the head of IT, then you should understand the business goals and being making decisions to that end.. but if you are the IT lacky - then your boss or their boss is the one making the real decisions, you (assuming it's part of your job) make your recommendations, and they get to live by their actual decisions.
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@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller I love when you said , "It's the CEO's network, the CEO's company. " I've met some people who have a power struggle about it.
It's a VERY common failing in IT to feel a sense of "ownership" of a network; instead of realizing that we just help to maintain other peoples' networks.
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@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I think that this is worth a read. If I was the CEO and say this thread, I'd be pretty unhappy and definitely not give this guy access.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2104114-unique-situation-for-it
with the guy who posted or the it guy he had for years
The guy who posted sounds like he is crazy. The guy that has been there for years sounds reasonable.
The CEO is agreeing with my view, that the guy who has been around for years is to be trusted and the new guy demanding access and to spend money without justification should be blocked.
just finished reading and the guy that posted sure is complaining a whole lot. If it's working why fix it.
Yeah. Now there is an argument to be made that it isn't working, and they just haven't realized it yet. But that generally applies to lacking patches and updates, not to not having features.
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@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The oddest thing is he still hasn't responded. Seems like this would be a good time to justify/explain your comments and save some face. Or someone might send that thread to that users CEO.
He finally did and clarified some things.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The oddest thing is he still hasn't responded. Seems like this would be a good time to justify/explain your comments and save some face. Or someone might send that thread to that users CEO.
He finally did and clarified some things.
That must be a rough situation to be in.
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Yeah I would definitely talk to the CEO about it... no reason at all to tread lightly. He hired him to do a job and now he can't (so it seems).
If the CEO realizes what's going on there's nothing to be worried about. If the CEO gets mad or weird about it, then you know you don't want to be working there under those kinds of conditions. I'd already be looking for another job to be honest, just in case.
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@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The oddest thing is he still hasn't responded. Seems like this would be a good time to justify/explain your comments and save some face. Or someone might send that thread to that users CEO.
He finally did and clarified some things.
That must be a rough situation to be in.
It feels fishy. He had to change the title significantly to make it make sense. He started off claiming he was a system admin. Then when clearly it didn't fit his story, he changed it to "head of IT".
That's like saying you were hired as a mechanic. Then when you claimed you should be in charge, changing your story to claim you were the manager. It doesn't add up and it's not a natural mistake to make - claiming yourself to be a technical employee, then after getting busted, claiming that you were, in fact, the manager instead.
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@tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Yeah I would definitely talk to the CEO about it... no reason at all to tread lightly. He hired him to do a job and now he can't (so it seems).
If the CEO realizes what's going on there's nothing to be worried about. If the CEO gets mad or weird about it, then you know you don't want to be working there under those kinds of conditions. I'd already be looking for another job to be honest, just in case.
My guess is that the CEO isn't the one being weird. From his own description of the problem, at best it seems like he doesn't communicate well which could explain a lot.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller I love when you said , "It's the CEO's network, the CEO's company. " I've met some people who have a power struggle about it.
It's a VERY common failing in IT to feel a sense of "ownership" of a network; instead of realizing that we just help to maintain other peoples' networks.
I'm guilty of this ^^^^^^. Been in current job for 20+ years (still loving it).
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller I love when you said , "It's the CEO's network, the CEO's company. " I've met some people who have a power struggle about it.
It's a VERY common failing in IT to feel a sense of "ownership" of a network; instead of realizing that we just help to maintain other peoples' networks.
I think it is because in IT we invest so much work into things that when someone wants to do something that would affect the infrastructure we have put in place, we in IT can see it as an attack on ourselves at times. It is especially hard when you have something that when you are done you are extremely proud of because of how much hard work and time we put into it. It is hard to step back from that.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The oddest thing is he still hasn't responded. Seems like this would be a good time to justify/explain your comments and save some face. Or someone might send that thread to that users CEO.
He finally did and clarified some things.
That must be a rough situation to be in.
It feels fishy. He had to change the title significantly to make it make sense. He started off claiming he was a system admin. Then when clearly it didn't fit his story, he changed it to "head of IT".
That's like saying you were hired as a mechanic. Then when you claimed you should be in charge, changing your story to claim you were the manager. It doesn't add up and it's not a natural mistake to make - claiming yourself to be a technical employee, then after getting busted, claiming that you were, in fact, the manager instead.
Well - at a small SMB (100 or so employees) I wouldn't want the title Director of IT, even if I really was the end all be all of IT decision making.. So I could see not calling yourself Director, head of, etc in that case.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@tech1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
The oddest thing is he still hasn't responded. Seems like this would be a good time to justify/explain your comments and save some face. Or someone might send that thread to that users CEO.
He finally did and clarified some things.
That must be a rough situation to be in.
It feels fishy. He had to change the title significantly to make it make sense. He started off claiming he was a system admin. Then when clearly it didn't fit his story, he changed it to "head of IT".
That's like saying you were hired as a mechanic. Then when you claimed you should be in charge, changing your story to claim you were the manager. It doesn't add up and it's not a natural mistake to make - claiming yourself to be a technical employee, then after getting busted, claiming that you were, in fact, the manager instead.
Well - at a small SMB (100 or so employees) I wouldn't want the title Director of IT, even if I really was the end all be all of IT decision making.. So I could see not calling yourself Director, head of, etc in that case.
Better than calling yourself a system admin when that isn't even slightly your job!
