Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations
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@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
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@aaronstuder said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/deleting-files-on-expiration-date/9595
This works via tagging which means they would need to tag their own stuff in order for it to work right?
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You delete the files manually with a cron job.
# crontab -l #Delete all files older than 30 days. Check daily at 06:00 0 6 * * * find /var/www/html/nextcloud/data/username* -mtime +30 -type f -delete
Then you run the Nextcloud rescan script.
sudo -u apache php /var/www/html/nextcloud/occ files:scan --path=username
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@jaredbusch Perfect. Thanks
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You can also assign quotas.
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@scottalanmiller said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
You can also assign quotas.
That is probably the best thing to do. Just give them a gig each and let them manage how to do it.
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
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@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
Good summary. I can hear myself saying that.
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@scottalanmiller said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
Good summary. I can hear myself saying that.
Holy Smokes.. I plucked a piece of SAM wisdom.
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@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Fear AND inaction.
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
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@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
Not a Psychiatrist, just the best damned IT tech they know. Since I'm the only one I'm also the worst IT tech they know too.
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
Not a Psychiatrist, just the best damned IT tech they know. Since I'm the only one I'm also the worst IT tech they know too.
LOL - but you allow yourself to be made to work for them for free.
I'm not as heartless as @JaredBusch , but I definitely don't do things that cause issue for me.
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@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
Not a Psychiatrist, just the best damned IT tech they know. Since I'm the only one I'm also the worst IT tech they know too.
LOL - but you allow yourself to be made to work for them for free.
I'm not as heartless as @JaredBusch , but I definitely don't do things that cause issue for me.
It's not that much work though. I'm just giving them access with some restrictions
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
Not a Psychiatrist, just the best damned IT tech they know. Since I'm the only one I'm also the worst IT tech they know too.
LOL - but you allow yourself to be made to work for them for free.
I'm not as heartless as @JaredBusch , but I definitely don't do things that cause issue for me.
It's not that much work though. I'm just giving them access with some restrictions
until it breaks, or they forget how to use it, etc, etc, etc... it's a life long commitment to support.
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@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
Not a Psychiatrist, just the best damned IT tech they know. Since I'm the only one I'm also the worst IT tech they know too.
LOL - but you allow yourself to be made to work for them for free.
I'm not as heartless as @JaredBusch , but I definitely don't do things that cause issue for me.
It's not that much work though. I'm just giving them access with some restrictions
until it breaks, or they forget how to use it, etc, etc, etc... it's a life long commitment to support.
When you get married you are also marrying their family. Someone help me
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
Not a Psychiatrist, just the best damned IT tech they know. Since I'm the only one I'm also the worst IT tech they know too.
LOL - but you allow yourself to be made to work for them for free.
I'm not as heartless as @JaredBusch , but I definitely don't do things that cause issue for me.
It's not that much work though. I'm just giving them access with some restrictions
until it breaks, or they forget how to use it, etc, etc, etc... it's a life long commitment to support.
When you get married you are also marrying their family. Someone help me
LOL - obviously not in @JaredBusch case
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@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
Not a Psychiatrist, just the best damned IT tech they know. Since I'm the only one I'm also the worst IT tech they know too.
LOL - but you allow yourself to be made to work for them for free.
I'm not as heartless as @JaredBusch , but I definitely don't do things that cause issue for me.
It's not that much work though. I'm just giving them access with some restrictions
until it breaks, or they forget how to use it, etc, etc, etc... it's a life long commitment to support.
When you get married you are also marrying their family. Someone help me
LOL - obviously not in @JaredBusch case
He's just mad I won't leave my wife for him. I'm sorry JB it's just complicated
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@scottalanmiller said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/
to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
Good summary. I can hear myself saying that.
I can't believe it took more than 2 posts for someone to say it.