FusionPBX benefits
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@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear
Because of my job I should know and evaluate different VOIP open source solutions for call center, Application server for services like customized ring back tone(for PSTN lines)...
Fusionpbx with DNS SRV and BDR is able to do both loadbalancing and High Availability.
Would you point me to Provisioning of IP phones like
Yealink, Polycom...or Hot desking or call Broadcast in Freeswitch code?The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
So you are looking for additional solutions to FusionPBX?
Third Lane has, by far, the best GUI I have seen, load balancing, and is inexpensive as far as I remember. https://www.thirdlane.com/
It is multi tenant and also has an impressive desktop app.
You may also like Sipwise CPBX https://www.sipwise.com/products/cpbx-for-enhanced-cloud-communications/
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@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear
Because of my job I should know and evaluate different VOIP open source solutions for call center, Application server for services like customized ring back tone(for PSTN lines)...
Fusionpbx with DNS SRV and BDR is able to do both loadbalancing and High Availability.
Would you point me to Provisioning of IP phones like
Yealink, Polycom...or Hot desking or call Broadcast in Freeswitch code?The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
So you are looking for additional solutions to FusionPBX?
Third Lane has, by far, the best GUI I have seen, load balancing, and is inexpensive as far as I remember. https://www.thirdlane.com/
It is multi tenant and also has an impressive desktop app.
You may also like Sipwise CPBX https://www.sipwise.com/products/cpbx-for-enhanced-cloud-communications/
If both Freeswitch internal database and Fusionpbx database saved in postgresql and with BDR replicated , there is intelligence in Fusionpbx code that realize the destination extension registered in which server and makes a dialstring to destination server.Theoretically uptil 48 server but I agree Kamailio/Opensips have many advantages but still there is a smooth migration path,I think without any configuration change it is possible to insert opensips+ midregistrar module in front of BDRed Fusionpbx servers. Users and phones still provisioned in Fusionpbx and opensips load balancing traffic and also absorb 90% of registering signals.(still inter-server routing could be done with Fusionpbx es themself)
I like Sipwise Architecture specially it has an opensource version www.sipwise.org , sometimes I think is it possible to have same Sipwise Architecture but use Freeswitch as media proxy and b2ba ? -
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear
Because of my job I should know and evaluate different VOIP open source solutions for call center, Application server for services like customized ring back tone(for PSTN lines)...
Fusionpbx with DNS SRV and BDR is able to do both loadbalancing and High Availability.
Would you point me to Provisioning of IP phones like
Yealink, Polycom...or Hot desking or call Broadcast in Freeswitch code?The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
So you are looking for additional solutions to FusionPBX?
Third Lane has, by far, the best GUI I have seen, load balancing, and is inexpensive as far as I remember. https://www.thirdlane.com/
It is multi tenant and also has an impressive desktop app.
You may also like Sipwise CPBX https://www.sipwise.com/products/cpbx-for-enhanced-cloud-communications/
If both Freeswitch internal database and Fusionpbx database saved in postgresql and with BDR replicated , there is intelligence in Fusionpbx code that realize the destination extension registered in which server and makes a dialstring to destination server.Theoretically uptil 48 server but I agree Kamailio/Opensips have many advantages but still there is a smooth migration path,I think without any configuration change it is possible to insert opensips+ midregistrar module in front of BDRed Fusionpbx servers. Users and phones still provisioned in Fusionpbx and opensips load balancing traffic and also absorb 90% of registering signals.
I like Sipwise Architecture specially it has an opensource version www.sipwise.org , sometimes I think is it possible to have same Sipwise Architecture but use Freeswitch as media proxy and b2ba ?The other day there was a guy fresh out of training in IRC who was waxing poetic about how his no HA setup was still just a BDR. I understand the premise though.
Opensips and FusionPBX is a good combo. What about CouchDB so you dont have to mess with all the Sync...
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@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
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@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
FreePBX has HA, but honestly you want a softswitch or sip server to scale a PBX (Kamailio, OpenSips, Sipwise, Acme, Cardinal)
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@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
Not sure about Freepbx, I think there is a commercial module
In wazo project (also open source based on Asterisk) there is HA solution
If you pass Fusionpbx training it should not be so hard and mcrane alwayes available in irc for help -
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
Not sure about Freepbx, I think there is a commercial module
In wazo project (also open source) there is HA solution
If you pass Fusionpbx training it should not be so hard and mcrane alwayes available in irc for help@babak I can appreciate the Fusion promo but no one here is likely to get Fusion training, just the wrong crowd. Lots of better places to promote.
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@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
Not sure about Freepbx, I think there is a commercial module
In wazo project (also open source) there is HA solution
If you pass Fusionpbx training it should not be so hard and mcrane alwayes available in irc for help@babak I can appreciate the Fusion promo but no one here is likely to get Fusion training, just the wrong crowd. Lots of better places to promote.
So for your answer about it is easy for HA in Fusionpbx I should tell if you know how to read source code and have enough time , it is not so hard
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@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
Not sure about Freepbx, I think there is a commercial module
In wazo project (also open source) there is HA solution
If you pass Fusionpbx training it should not be so hard and mcrane alwayes available in irc for help@babak I can appreciate the Fusion promo but no one here is likely to get Fusion training, just the wrong crowd. Lots of better places to promote.
So for your answer about it is easy for HA in Fusionpbx I should tell if you know how to read source code and have enough time , it is not so hard
I would say if you are deploying a solution that requires production level HA you should hire someone thats done it for 20 years.
I use Opensips for scale, and for a lot of other things, on top of whatever pbx engine.
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@bigbear almost everything listed is native to freeswitch.
FreeSWITCH doesn't have hot desking, device provisioning, operator panel, and all the other features that it does have are configured with XML. What FreeSWITCH has is a good tool box to make it possible to make all of those features.
@bigbear Also fusion doesn’t load balance servers, it’s just a failover BDR, where opensips and Kamailio offer true redundancy.
Load balancing is literally distributing the load and this can be done using multiple tools including but not limited to OpenSIPs and Kamailio but because FusionPBX is domain based multi-tenant system that usually has multiple domains and therefore load can also be distributed with DNS SRV, Smart DNS, multiple outbound proxies and more.
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@jaredbusch English is not babak's native language.
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@markjcrane said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear almost everything listed is native to freeswitch.
FreeSWITCH doesn't have hot desking, device provisioning, operator panel, and all the other features that it does have have to be configured with XML. What FreeSWITCH has is a good tool box to make it possible to make all of those features.
@bigbear Also fusion doesn’t load balance servers, it’s just a failover BDR, where opensips and Kamailio offer true redundancy.
Load balancing is literally distributing the load and this can be done using multiple tools including but not limited to OpenSIPs and Kamailio but because FusionPBX is domain based multi-tenant system that usually has multiple domains and therefore load can also be distributed with DNS SRV, Smart DNS, multiple outbound proxies and more.
heavy heavy sigh
I don’t think the current iteration of fusion operator panel is a real factor in anyone’s decision making process tbh Mark.
And I don’t think dns srv records and the current sync setup you are describing compares on any level to opensips.
No ones bashing fusion, were just getting this commercial here today out of the blue and I don’t know what’s behind it.
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@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
I don’t think dns srv records and the current sync setup you are describing compares on any level to opensips.
No but they do provide a level of load balancing. Can you do more with openSIPS or Kamailio definitely.
No ones bashing fusion, were just getting this commercial here today out of the blue and I don’t know what’s behind it.
I did not start the post. I'm simply responding to the conversation that is here.
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Off to third day thanksgiving dinner, cheers to all...
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@markjcrane said in FusionPBX benefits:
@jaredbusch English is not babak's native language.
I wonder how well Jared can write posts in his second language. I'd expect it to be perfect the way he treats others.
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@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@markjcrane said in FusionPBX benefits:
@jaredbusch English is not babak's native language.
I wonder how well Jared can write posts in his second language. I'd expect it to be perfect the way he treats others.
Probably wouldn’t randomly post adverts to second language forums to begin with...
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@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@markjcrane said in FusionPBX benefits:
@jaredbusch English is not babak's native language.
I wonder how well Jared can write posts in his second language.
If I did, I would preface it that it is not my native language.
Especially on my very first post to a forum.Although I would also never post an initial topic that is all but an ad for a service in a language that I was not fluent in.
@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
I'd expect it to be perfect the way he treats others.
I think you need to shove your attitude up your ass today. The only thing I stated is in the unedited 2nd post above. It is simply calling out what could easily have been a spam post. We get them infrequently.
For posterity in case anyone edits my post above:
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@jaredbusch said in FusionPBX benefits:
@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@markjcrane said in FusionPBX benefits:
@jaredbusch English is not babak's native language.
I wonder how well Jared can write posts in his second language.
If I did, I would preface it that it is not my native language.
Especially on my very first post to a forum.Although I would also never post an initial topic that is all but an ad for a service in a language that I was not fluent in.
@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
I'd expect it to be perfect the way he treats others.
I think you need to shove your attitude up your ass today. The only thing I stated is in the unedited 2nd post above. It is simply calling out what could easily have been a spam post. We get them infrequently.
For posterity in case anyone edits my post above:
Worth noting that the post only remains because @markjcrane spoke up for the OP. Community policy states that new vendor accounts (or any account) cannot promote a product on their first post, but have to establish that they are a real poster before posting promotation material. This eliminates nearly all spam bots. As we have a real person who knows this person, it's fine. But it's important to understand wy people are reacting to it. We get many of these, you just don't see them because they get deleted immediately.
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@jaredbusch said in FusionPBX benefits:
I think you need to shove your attitude up your ass today.
Aww, I was hoping for the "go piss up a rope".
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Full disclosure: I sell cloud phone service and we have recently been courting the reseller/channel market.
Mark (the FusionPBX creator) and I spent a couple hours on the phone today and we talked a little about this post.
Short story is I assumed OP was one of the many people I have been talking to who came here to shill post. It is actually a legit FusionPBX user who was looking to help promote the project. In IRC history well after the post asked Mark for some help, and I know Mark would never have asked for it. So it wasnt a shill post from FusionPBX in any way.
To set my comments straight... FusionPBX does have true load balancing, server A goes down and server B takes over. You can also sync the load over multiple servers. They have also developed a number of feature replacements that dont use Freeswitch, and I would be the first to say its the best provisioner I have ever used.
If you have designs on managing multiple tenants from a single server it really is a no brainer to check this project out. You really do need the training and to make a long term commitment to learning the product.
