Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out
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@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
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@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
And I know it would probably eat up some CPU power, but I really only want to run a few tiny VM's..
It's the licensening change that is the real issue.
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@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want to rope you into having to pay them money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
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@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
Wait, when the fuck did they add a GUI to Hyper-V. I do not recall seeing that when I setup my last Hyper-V Server 2016 instance 8 months ago.
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@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
Wait, when the fuck did they add a GUI to Hyper-V. I do not recall seeing that when I setup my last Hyper-V Server 2016 instance 8 months ago.
I don't know but I swear to God that I saw in three different attempts of installing hyper-v 2016 that there was the second option of having a desktop experience installed.
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@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want to rope you into having to pay them money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
With Windows Server, you have a lot more roles to choose from, which me you will have to have license. Hyper-V Server does not need a license in order to use it since the main use is to hist VMs.
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@black3dynamite said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want to rope you into having to pay them money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
With Windows Server, you have a lot more roles to choose from, which me you will have to have license. Hyper-V Server does not need a license in order to use it since the main use is to hist VMs.
I am confident he is not using the full server instance based on all his detailed replies.
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@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
Wait, when the fuck did they add a GUI to Hyper-V. I do not recall seeing that when I setup my last Hyper-V Server 2016 instance 8 months ago.
I don't know but I swear to God that I saw in three different attempts of installing hyper-v 2016 that there was the second option of having a desktop experience installed.
I'm downloading it now. I have a crappy old desktop that may support it here that i can attempt the initial install on.
Also, this thread is what I did on a defualt AD domain.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016.
about halfway down I posted the firewall rules I enabled and such.
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@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
Wait, when the fuck did they add a GUI to Hyper-V. I do not recall seeing that when I setup my last Hyper-V Server 2016 instance 8 months ago.
I don't know but I swear to God that I saw in three different attempts of installing hyper-v 2016 that there was the second option of having a desktop experience installed.
Option 1: Windows Server w/ Desktop Experience and then install Hyper-V role.
Option 2: Windows Server w/ Core and Hyper-V role.
Option 3: Hyper-V Server (The best option)
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@black3dynamite said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
Wait, when the fuck did they add a GUI to Hyper-V. I do not recall seeing that when I setup my last Hyper-V Server 2016 instance 8 months ago.
I don't know but I swear to God that I saw in three different attempts of installing hyper-v 2016 that there was the second option of having a desktop experience installed.
Option 1: Windows Server w/ Desktop Experience and then install Hyper-V role.
Option 2: Windows Server w/ Core and Hyper-V role.
Option 3: Hyper-V Server (The best option)
You are not understanding here. We all know all of that... That is not what he is stating.
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@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
Wait, when the fuck did they add a GUI to Hyper-V. I do not recall seeing that when I setup my last Hyper-V Server 2016 instance 8 months ago.
I don't know but I swear to God that I saw in three different attempts of installing hyper-v 2016 that there was the second option of having a desktop experience installed.
I'm downloading it now. I have a crappy old desktop that may support it here that i can attempt the initial install on.
Also, this thread is what I did on a defualt AD domain.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016.
about halfway down I posted the firewall rules I enabled and such.
I'm downloading it now too. I do notice the file name is a bit different than the ISO I had downloaded before, about 3 months ago.
- Old file: 14393.0.161119-1705.RS1_REFRESH_SERVER_EVAL_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
- New file: 14393.0.161119-1705.RS1_REFRESH_SERVERHYPERCORE_OEM_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
Maybe, just maybe, I am a total fucking idiot and somehow mixed my ISOs up...
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This is a different ISO than the one I used in January.
14393.0.161119-1705.RS1_REFRESH_SERVERHYPERCORE_OEM_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
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@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
Wait, when the fuck did they add a GUI to Hyper-V. I do not recall seeing that when I setup my last Hyper-V Server 2016 instance 8 months ago.
I don't know but I swear to God that I saw in three different attempts of installing hyper-v 2016 that there was the second option of having a desktop experience installed.
I'm downloading it now. I have a crappy old desktop that may support it here that i can attempt the initial install on.
Also, this thread is what I did on a defualt AD domain.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016.
about halfway down I posted the firewall rules I enabled and such.
I'm downloading it now too. I do notice the file name is a bit different than the ISO I had downloaded before, about 3 months ago.
- Old file: 14393.0.161119-1705.RS1_REFRESH_SERVER_EVAL_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
- New file: 14393.0.161119-1705.RS1_REFRESH_SERVERHYPERCORE_OEM_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
Maybe, just maybe, I am a total fucking idiot and somehow mixed my ISOs up...
You are a total idiot based on THAT post.
The first is Server. The second is Hyper-V Server
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@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
Wait, when the fuck did they add a GUI to Hyper-V. I do not recall seeing that when I setup my last Hyper-V Server 2016 instance 8 months ago.
I don't know but I swear to God that I saw in three different attempts of installing hyper-v 2016 that there was the second option of having a desktop experience installed.
I'm downloading it now. I have a crappy old desktop that may support it here that i can attempt the initial install on.
Also, this thread is what I did on a defualt AD domain.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016.
about halfway down I posted the firewall rules I enabled and such.
I'm downloading it now too. I do notice the file name is a bit different than the ISO I had downloaded before, about 3 months ago.
- Old file: 14393.0.161119-1705.RS1_REFRESH_SERVER_EVAL_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
- New file: 14393.0.161119-1705.RS1_REFRESH_SERVERHYPERCORE_OEM_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
Maybe, just maybe, I am a total fucking idiot and somehow mixed my ISOs up...
You are a total idiot based on THAT post.
The first is Server. The second is Hyper-V Server
pfffffhahahahahahahahah... WHAT THE FUCK.
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Ok I swear I thought I downloaded the correct ISO. It was directly after I had a conversation with Scott over the phone about my VoIP debacle, and we got into servers and he told me about Hyper-V being completely free and blew my little fucking mind. SO I rushed out to Microsoft and downloaded it, and I know I KNOW I went to the right spot because I was specifically careful to download the file under "Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2016" and not the one for regular Server 2016.
If this was my problem all along then I'm going to owe you all an apology and a beer.
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There is Windows Server 2016, and HyperV Server 2016. One you do not use as a hypervisor (even though you can), the other you do.
Don't confuse the two.
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@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want to rope you into having to pay them money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
If that is a thing, it is so new that I've never seen it. It wasn't in the initial 2016 release.
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@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
Ok I swear I thought I downloaded the correct ISO. It was directly after I had a conversation with Scott over the phone about my VoIP debacle, and we got into servers and he told me about Hyper-V being completely free and blew my little fucking mind. SO I rushed out to Microsoft and downloaded it, and I know I KNOW I went to the right spot because I was specifically careful to download the file under "Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2016" and not the one for regular Server 2016.
If this was my problem all along then I'm going to owe you all an apology and a beer.
Oh, might you have been installing Windows instead of Hyper-V? LOL, that would do it
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@tim_g said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
There is Windows Server 2016, and HyperV Server 2016. One you do not use as a hypervisor (even though you can), the other you do.
Don't confuse the two.
Yes see but I already know this!!!!!!!!!!! I swear I thought I downloaded the correct ISO. I WAS CAREFUL TO DOWNLOAD THE RIGHT ISO!!
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@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@jaredbusch said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@scottalanmiller said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
@dave247 said in Trying to set up Hyper-V Server 2016, ripping my hair out:
So... if I just install Hyper-V Server 2016 WITH the Desktop Experience, I would be able to manage VM's by directly remoting into the server, right? Then I wouldn't have to mess with the Hyper-V Manager in Windows 10..
Well... that's not a product option. To do that you have to buy and install a full Windows Server license, and then that license is tied to Hyper-V. If you od that, then you can admin it locally. But if you are even thinking about that, it's time to be on KVM.
See this is why I am so confused.
- I can go to Microsoft and download Windows Server 2016, which when you install it, has options to install as core or GUI. Either way, I have to pay for a license because it's not free, core or GUI, RIGHT?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-2016
- I can go to Microsoft and download the "evaluation" of Hyper-V Server 2016, which when I install, has the option to install standard evaluation, or desktop experience evaluation. I can just use the standard no GUI and it's 100% free, RIGHT?? So then what does it matter if I choose to install the free hypervisor with the desktop experience?? - https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-hyper-v-server-2016
If both things are separate things, but installing the Desktop Experience means they are the same thing and I have to pay for a license to use Hyper-V, then I don't understand why they are selling them together... or wait is it because they want money??
Now I am not trying to make assumptions here or not thinking in a sensible GD way. I am just trying to navigate my way through options for installing Hyper-V, having it be free, and having it actually ****ing work.
Wait, when the fuck did they add a GUI to Hyper-V. I do not recall seeing that when I setup my last Hyper-V Server 2016 instance 8 months ago.
I don't know but I swear to God that I saw in three different attempts of installing hyper-v 2016 that there was the second option of having a desktop experience installed.
I'm downloading it now. I have a crappy old desktop that may support it here that i can attempt the initial install on.
Also, this thread is what I did on a defualt AD domain.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016.
about halfway down I posted the firewall rules I enabled and such.
I'm downloading it now too. I do notice the file name is a bit different than the ISO I had downloaded before, about 3 months ago.
- Old file: 14393.0.161119-1705.RS1_REFRESH_SERVER_EVAL_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
- New file: 14393.0.161119-1705.RS1_REFRESH_SERVERHYPERCORE_OEM_X64FRE_EN-US.ISO
Maybe, just maybe, I am a total fucking idiot and somehow mixed my ISOs up...
You are a total idiot based on THAT post.
The first is Server. The second is Hyper-V Server
pfffffhahahahahahahahah... WHAT THE FUCK.
Blame MS for making it confusing as fuck in the name of licensing dollars.
No one will hold it against you.
