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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.And I work for an Healthcare provider!
My mother's worked for a hospital forever, and for years they had their own HMO (basically utilizing all of the area healthcare providers). I remember it being awesome (and reasonably priced), though, I'm not sure if it exists anymore.
HMO exists but with terrible coverage, but it is the reasonably priced. High deductibles is what kills it.
Does that look reasonably priced?
Not it is not! I am paying about $1,200 amount right now with that type of deductible...
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@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Correct!
And the plan I had from 2010 until the ACA forced it out was better than the Gold plans in the ACA.
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@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.And I work for an Healthcare provider!
My mother's worked for a hospital forever, and for years they had their own HMO (basically utilizing all of the area healthcare providers). I remember it being awesome (and reasonably priced), though, I'm not sure if it exists anymore.
HMO exists but with terrible coverage, but it is the reasonably priced. High deductibles is what kills it.
Does that look reasonably priced?
Not it is not! I am paying about $1,200 amount right now with that type of deductible...
And that's because my kids are on NJ Family care.
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In my opinion, the ACA and [insert other ideas that deal with trying to get more folks with health insurance coverage] are trying to solve the wrong problem. The problem is the cost of healthcare, not lack of insurance coverage.
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer? It's insanely cheaper doing it that way, and probably much better plans.
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
It's insanely cheaper doing it that way
You obviously know nothing about how healthcare plans work.
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?
Just, really? WTF
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?
Just, really? WTF
It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.
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@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?
Just, really? WTF
It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.
FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.
You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?
Just, really? WTF
It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.
FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.
You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.
Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people.
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@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?
Just, really? WTF
It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.
FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.
You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.
Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people.
Well we do.
And I am paid a nice hourly rate to compensate for buying my own healthcare. But that was comparative to January of 2010. I've had rate increases ($1.50 (little north of 3%) this year in fact). But it does not keep pace with this stupid ass shit.
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As I said, above, I can pay the penalty of $2085 and come out with more than $10,000 in savings to book towards health care costs.
Even with two children we are really looking at this.
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?
Just, really? WTF
It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.
FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.
You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.
Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people.
Well we do.
And I am paid a nice hourly rate to compensate for buying my own healthcare. But that was comparative to January of 2010. I've had rate increases ($1.50 (little north of 3%) this year in fact). But it does not keep pace with this stupid ass shit.
Now your situation makes sense.
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
It's insanely cheaper doing it that way
You obviously know nothing about how healthcare plans work.
Well, I know that my employer pays an F ton, and that I pay less than $300 a month.
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.
I know who your employer is, I didn't know the size or how employers go about insurance. I didn't know they choose not to take care of insurance costs for employees. I've seen some that do, even with small size. No way of knowing for sure, I've never worked for your employer.
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?
Just, really? WTF
It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.
FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.
You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.
Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people.
Well we do.
And I am paid a nice hourly rate to compensate for buying my own healthcare. But that was comparative to January of 2010. I've had rate increases ($1.50 (little north of 3%) this year in fact). But it does not keep pace with this stupid ass shit.
Now your situation makes sense.
Yeah, now that we know. I guess sometimes we should read minds...
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?
Just, really? WTF
It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.
FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.
You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.
Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people.
Well we do.
And I am paid a nice hourly rate to compensate for buying my own healthcare. But that was comparative to January of 2010. I've had rate increases ($1.50 (little north of 3%) this year in fact). But it does not keep pace with this stupid ass shit.
Now your situation makes sense.
Yeah, now that we know. I guess sometimes we should read minds...
Or maybe I do not realize how long some of you have and have not been here. It is not a secret, and to me, I seem to regularly mention it.
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Charles Manson has finally perished.
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@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@tim_g said in Non-IT News Thread:
@jaredbusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?
Just, really? WTF
It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.
FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.
You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.
Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people.
Well we do.
And I am paid a nice hourly rate to compensate for buying my own healthcare. But that was comparative to January of 2010. I've had rate increases ($1.50 (little north of 3%) this year in fact). But it does not keep pace with this stupid ass shit.
Now your situation makes sense.
Yeah, now that we know. I guess sometimes we should read minds...
Or maybe I do not realize how long some of you have and have not been here. It is not a secret, and to me, I seem to regularly mention it.
I don't know all of you but based on my experience on my previous job I got almost the same deal of @Tim_G but since then I have been doing it on my own.
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I'm glad I don't have to deal with the crap that JB and Scott do.
We have a high deductible plan. Company pays the bulk of it. Plan costs $4336, I pay $715.
Then, instead of having to pay the typical high deductible, the employee covers the first $2000, then the company picks up the rest from $2000 - $5250.
Toss on that because we are enrolled in a high deductible plan, we can use a Health Savings Account that we can contribute up to $3400 (2017) making that $2K deductible tax free.This is on BCBS. The included benefits are pretty decent. I'm pretty happy with our plan.
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@dbeato said in Non-IT News Thread:
@eddiejennings said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dbeato Sorry to read
But I cannot say I'm surprised.Yeah, I have been paying for my own insurance the last two years and it is crazy.
I have been buying insurance direct since 2010. It has never been like this until the ACA.
Why do you go direct rather than through your employer?
Just, really? WTF
It’s been a while since I’ve ran numbers, if your employer is willing to truly give you 100% of your pay and not deduct their costs for the group plan, then it could make sense buying your own plan.
FFS, it is not a secret where I work or how many people work here. I've said it many times.
You do not buy group insurance for a company of 4 full time people. It simply does not happen.
Actually, I had no idea your employer only had 4 full time people.
Well we do.
And I am paid a nice hourly rate to compensate for buying my own healthcare. But that was comparative to January of 2010. I've had rate increases ($1.50 (little north of 3%) this year in fact). But it does not keep pace with this stupid ass shit.
Now your situation makes sense.
Yeah, now that we know. I guess sometimes we should read minds...
Or maybe I do not realize how long some of you have and have not been here. It is not a secret, and to me, I seem to regularly mention it.
If asked, I could tell someone that you work with Bundy Associates (sp?), but I wouldn't have known it consisted of only 4 full time people. I knew it was small, just didn't know how small.
