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    VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?

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    • bigbearB
      bigbear @brianlittlejohn
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      @brianlittlejohn said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

      I thought Voip.ms was a Canadian company with offices in the US as well.

      Just servers, and the founder posts a lot to tell people they have to figure out how to pay US taxes themselves.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @bigbear
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        @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

        @brianlittlejohn said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

        I thought Voip.ms was a Canadian company with offices in the US as well.

        Just servers, and the founder posts a lot to tell people they have to figure out how to pay US taxes themselves.

        Offices in the US, CA and MX.

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        • Mike DavisM
          Mike Davis @bigbear
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          @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

          One guy has 10 seats, $259, and $179 in taxes.

          Percentage wise, that's what Nextiva charges.

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          • bigbearB
            bigbear @Mike Davis
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            @mike-davis said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

            @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

            One guy has 10 seats, $259, and $179 in taxes.

            Percentage wise, that's what Nextiva charges.

            I remember you mentioning that...

            I was gonna ask you if you had to time to strike out your personal info and send a screen shot of the actual charges and recovery fees etc.

            I know when we used to sell sip trunks it was way more than hosted pbx.

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            • bigbearB
              bigbear
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              https://www.puc.texas.gov/consumer/phone/Service.aspx

              An excerpt read...

              The biggest advantage of VoIP service over traditional phone service is price, if you already have a broadband connection such as digital cable or DSL. Additionally, because VoIP is a largely unregulated "information service," VoIP providers currently do not have to pay connection fees to transport long distance calls or other fees that get tacked on to traditional phone service bills, making VoIP service cheaper by comparison

              I wander if this is a shill tax/fee industry where the guys at the top are just pocketing the fees. Some PBX players have real coppoer in the ground at interconnects, which does cost more and more each year. Maybe resulting in bills like @Mike-Davis has.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                https://www.puc.texas.gov/consumer/phone/Service.aspx

                An excerpt read...

                The biggest advantage of VoIP service over traditional phone service is price, if you already have a broadband connection such as digital cable or DSL. Additionally, because VoIP is a largely unregulated "information service," VoIP providers currently do not have to pay connection fees to transport long distance calls or other fees that get tacked on to traditional phone service bills, making VoIP service cheaper by comparison

                I wander if this is a shill tax/fee industry where the guys at the top are just pocketing the fees. Some PBX players have real coppoer in the ground at interconnects, which does cost more and more each year. Maybe resulting in bills like @Mike-Davis has.

                Keep in mind that VoIP applies to things that don't touch the PSTN, too.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  So like using Google Hangouts, that's VoIP. And it never touches the PSTN. And it is completely tax free. A VoIP call that hits the PSTN stops being a VoIP call, so gets taxed when it becomes part of the PSTN.

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                  • bigbearB
                    bigbear
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                    Right, and yet we've never got a bill for using the Hangouts feature of calling a land line. So either Google pays the tax directly (likely) or, actually thats whats going on.

                    The big issue I am running into is I have found good customer base for selling just the voice platform, which is really what I want. However, they want to bring theyre trunks and bill the customer direct (which is fine) but another guy who I am taking some business from is giving a lot of pause over taxes.

                    Ironically, his own platform uses suretax I believe and charges huge fees that could easily be bypassed.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
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                      Taxes, is exactly why I do not do anything more than help clients sign up for their own service.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                        @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                        Right, and yet we've never got a bill for using the Hangouts feature of calling a land line.

                        I had no idea that that was a feature.

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                        • bigbearB
                          bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                          @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                          Right, and yet we've never got a bill for using the Hangouts feature of calling a land line.

                          I had no idea that that was a feature.

                          Just start a new chat, type a 10 digit number as the contact, hit send. The party getting the call sees "unkown"

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                            @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                            @scottalanmiller said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                            @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                            Right, and yet we've never got a bill for using the Hangouts feature of calling a land line.

                            I had no idea that that was a feature.

                            Just start a new chat, type a 10 digit number as the contact, hit send. The party getting the call sees "unkown"

                            Interesting. I had no idea.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                              @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                              Right, and yet we've never got a bill for using the Hangouts feature of calling a land line.

                              I had no idea that that was a feature.

                              This I how I do 99% of my calling. Such a great features.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                @coliver said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                                @scottalanmiller said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                                @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                                Right, and yet we've never got a bill for using the Hangouts feature of calling a land line.

                                I had no idea that that was a feature.

                                This I how I do 99% of my calling. Such a great features.

                                I've not found Hangouts to be all that reliable, even for just Hangouts own calls.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                                  @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                                  Right, and yet we've never got a bill for using the Hangouts feature of calling a land line.

                                  I had no idea that that was a feature.

                                  Been around for 5 years at least.

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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                                    @jaredbusch said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                                    @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                                    Right, and yet we've never got a bill for using the Hangouts feature of calling a land line.

                                    I had no idea that that was a feature.

                                    Been around for 5 years at least.

                                    I wish they'd quit messing with features. I used to use this all the time, but around a year ago it just quit working.

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                                    • bigbearB
                                      bigbear
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                                      Still working for me...

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                                      • Mike DavisM
                                        Mike Davis @bigbear
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                                        @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                                        I was gonna ask you if you had to time to strike out your personal info and send a screen shot of the actual charges and recovery fees etc.

                                        PMed you one.

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                                        • travisdh1T
                                          travisdh1 @bigbear
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                                          @bigbear said in VoIP Taxes - Are you paying them?:

                                          Still working for me...

                                          Well, why does my phone refuse to connect a call with hangouts.... oh yeah.... Motorola, gr!

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