Suggestions for new APs and Firewall
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@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
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@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
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@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
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@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
What are you seeing as a max throughput on the router functionality? VPN doesn't count.
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@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
You will want to use the ER-PRO. The CPU in the ERL will slow you down.
The new ER4 & ER6 models are going to be awesome, but they are still beta products.
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@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
What are you seeing as a max throughput on the router functionality? VPN doesn't count.
With any type of basic traffic shaping on the ERL your max throughput will be 60mbps.
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@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
What are you seeing as a max throughput on the router functionality? VPN doesn't count.
With any type of basic traffic shaping on the ERL your max throughput will be 60mbps.
Yes, but we aren't talking about that. What are the speeds of the routing, without adding on functions? I'm getting 160Mb/s with the CPU at idle.
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@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
What are you seeing as a max throughput on the router functionality? VPN doesn't count.
With any type of basic traffic shaping on the ERL your max throughput will be 60mbps.
Yes, but we aren't talking about that. What are the speeds of the routing, without adding on functions? I'm getting 160Mb/s with the CPU at idle.
Do you have 160mbps up with your basic SIP/RTP traffic shaping rules applied to the router? I will guarantee that you do not.
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@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
What are you seeing as a max throughput on the router functionality? VPN doesn't count.
With any type of basic traffic shaping on the ERL your max throughput will be 60mbps.
Yes, but we aren't talking about that.
Yes, we are talking about that. Real world. Who runs a network with no traffic shaping on their edge router device?
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@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
What are you seeing as a max throughput on the router functionality? VPN doesn't count.
With any type of basic traffic shaping on the ERL your max throughput will be 60mbps.
Yes, but we aren't talking about that. What are the speeds of the routing, without adding on functions? I'm getting 160Mb/s with the CPU at idle.
Do you have 160mbps up with your basic SIP/RTP traffic shaping rules applied to the router? I will guarantee that you do not.
No, don't need them. Which is good, no need to put QoS latency on the CPUs.
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@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
What are you seeing as a max throughput on the router functionality? VPN doesn't count.
With any type of basic traffic shaping on the ERL your max throughput will be 60mbps.
Yes, but we aren't talking about that.
Yes, we are talking about that. Real world. Who runs a network with no traffic shaping on their edge router device?
Actually, most do not in the SMB. That's rare. Especially as most SMBs don't have equipment that can handle it at speed. Think about your own statements that things like ADSL with consumer grade, ISP supplied equipment is all over the place. You can't honestly say that anyone anywhere close to that category is traffic shaping.
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@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
What are you seeing as a max throughput on the router functionality? VPN doesn't count.
With any type of basic traffic shaping on the ERL your max throughput will be 60mbps.
Yes, but we aren't talking about that.
Yes, we are talking about that. Real world. Who runs a network with no traffic shaping on their edge router device?
Actually, most do not in the SMB. That's rare. Especially as most SMBs don't have equipment that can handle it at speed. Think about your own statements that things like ADSL with consumer grade, ISP supplied equipment is all over the place. You can't honestly say that anyone anywhere close to that category is traffic shaping.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Either this is being setup correctly on quality gear, or just tell the OP to use a Linksys router.
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@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
What are you seeing as a max throughput on the router functionality? VPN doesn't count.
With any type of basic traffic shaping on the ERL your max throughput will be 60mbps.
Yes, but we aren't talking about that.
Yes, we are talking about that. Real world. Who runs a network with no traffic shaping on their edge router device?
Actually, most do not in the SMB. That's rare. Especially as most SMBs don't have equipment that can handle it at speed. Think about your own statements that things like ADSL with consumer grade, ISP supplied equipment is all over the place. You can't honestly say that anyone anywhere close to that category is traffic shaping.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Either this is being setup correctly on quality gear, or just tell the OP to use a Linksys router.
That was my point. It can't be all "people don't use real gear" and "most everyone uses real gear and does QoS". One or the other.
Reality is, it's rather a rare SMB that does this. And many don't need it. Only those big enough to have contention issues, with small pipes, that use certain services over shared lines. While that's a lot, it's a lot that don't fit into that, too.
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What what number of VOIP devices would you really need to start worrying about traffic shaping
Assume 25/3 ISP connection?
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@dashrender said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
What what number of VOIP devices would you really need to start worrying about traffic shaping
Assume 25/3 ISP connection?
I keep saying this... number of users, number of devices... these are not factors in bandwidth decisions.
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You need to worry about traffic shaping when your high priority traffic is gaining unacceptable latency caused by low priority traffick saturating the outbound connection. That's it.
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@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@jaredbusch said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@coliver said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@dafyre they are certainly cheap enough.
Yeah. If nothing else he could keep them around for places that need Wifi temporarily or something.
My question is what Ubiquiti Router would you get for a campus with ~1200 people and a 500 mbit internet connection?
Disclaimer: I used to work in the position that @Markferron now fills.
ERL
Number of users is really never a factor. Throughput is how you measure router performance, not user count.
You obviously have not grasp of reality. I have posted more than one thread here about real world throughput on these units (because I love them and use the heck out of them).
What are you seeing as a max throughput on the router functionality? VPN doesn't count.
With any type of basic traffic shaping on the ERL your max throughput will be 60mbps.
Yes, but we aren't talking about that.
Yes, we are talking about that. Real world. Who runs a network with no traffic shaping on their edge router device?
A college that has to prevent students from torrenting up all the bandwidth leaving none for important things like Facebook and Netflix.
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This can happen with a single user at home, or not happen with thousands of users sharing a connection. User and device count just don't matter.
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@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
You need to worry about traffic shaping when your high priority traffic is gaining unacceptable latency caused by low priority traffick saturating the outbound connection. That's it.
Sure, of course... that could be the case with a single user.
So if that's really the situation, then the answer to my question is - one.
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@dashrender said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
@scottalanmiller said in Suggestions for new APs and Firewall:
You need to worry about traffic shaping when your high priority traffic is gaining unacceptable latency caused by low priority traffick saturating the outbound connection. That's it.
Sure, of course... that could be the case with a single user.
So if that's really the situation, then the answer to my question is - one.
No, that's certainly not the answer.
