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    FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues

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      mlnews
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      He said it, but did anyone listen?

      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/al-franken-wants-net-neutrality-rules-for-google-facebook-and-amazon/

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        mlnews
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        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/lawmakers-demand-investigation-into-fcc-chairman-ajit-pai/

        Looks like Ajit Pai might be on the payroll of Sinclair Broadcast Group. Two lawmakers are asking for an investigation.

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          coliver @mlnews
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          @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/lawmakers-demand-investigation-into-fcc-chairman-ajit-pai/

          Looks like Ajit Pai might be on the payroll of Sinclair Broadcast Group. Two lawmakers are asking for an investigation.

          Surprising literally no one...

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            coliver
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            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fccs-latest-gift-to-telcos-could-leave-americans-with-worse-internet-access/#p3

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              coliver @coliver
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              This is bizarre to me.

              Pai's proposal relies on filings made by carriers to bolster his argument that the functional test "resulted in unnecessary and costly filings" and "can also delay network upgrades." The proposal dismissed the Communications Workers of America argument that the functional test doesn't create uncertainty, saying the union's argument is "directly contradicted by the comments of many carriers."

              I'm not a fan of Unions, especially since they directly benefit from this rule, but why are you relying on the people you are charged with regulating when you should be doing your own study? Oh right... money.

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                mlnews
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                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/broadband-lobby-steps-up-attack-on-state-privacy-and-net-neutrality-laws/

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                  mlnews
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                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fccs-latest-gift-to-telcos-could-leave-americans-with-worse-internet-access/

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                    coliver @mlnews
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                    @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/broadband-lobby-steps-up-attack-on-state-privacy-and-net-neutrality-laws/

                    Basically... "We want states to regulate municipal broadband and prevent cities from creating their own ISPs.... but we don't want states to regulate us." am I understanding this correctly? Seems like we want our cake, eat it, and prevent the poors from ever getting flour to make their own cake.

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                      DustinB3403 @coliver
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                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/broadband-lobby-steps-up-attack-on-state-privacy-and-net-neutrality-laws/

                      Basically... "We want states to regulate municipal broadband and prevent cities from creating their own ISPs.... but we don't want states to regulate us." am I understanding this correctly? Seems like we want our cake, eat it, and prevent the poors from ever getting flour to make their own cake.

                      Yup, but more like "we don't even want the poors to know what cake is."

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                        mlnews
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                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/sorry-poor-people-the-fcc-is-coming-after-your-broadband-plans/

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                          coliver
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                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/rip-net-neutrality-fcc-chair-releases-plan-to-deregulate-isps/#p3

                          Here we go...

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                            coliver
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                            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-will-also-order-states-to-scrap-plans-for-their-own-net-neutrality-laws/

                            Isn't... isn't this against the conservative/Republican philosophy?

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                              DustinB3403 @coliver
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                              @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-will-also-order-states-to-scrap-plans-for-their-own-net-neutrality-laws/

                              Isn't... isn't this against the conservative/Republican philosophy?

                              Well it goes against the basic federal state law standard. Meaning that the fed sets the minimum requirements or law for something. And states can ramp it up from there.

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                                DustinB3403
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                                Also to note it's interesting that the FCC can't see that clearly the states and residents of those states want Net Neutrality. Yea Pai is actively doing everything he can to remove and prevent Net Neutrality from ever existing.

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                                  scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-will-also-order-states-to-scrap-plans-for-their-own-net-neutrality-laws/

                                  Isn't... isn't this against the conservative/Republican philosophy?

                                  Not for the last twenty years. They've been pro-monopoly.

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                                    DustinB3403
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                                    https://i.imgur.com/adY4SDM.jpg

                                    It Fits.

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                                      Dashrender
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                                      LOL - Comcast was already strangling torrents and things before the rules.. you know that will be right back in place once these rules are lifted.

                                      What's worse though is that true competition is kept out through agreements between the city and these ransom holding vendors!

                                      The FCC should only even maybe (but not really) consider removing this if they also put in place that municipalities can't give exclusive access to one or even two vendors. With this, the BS excuse that the free market will fix the problem is not possible.

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                                        Fundamentally repealing Net Neutrality is the right thing to do...if ISPs were not monopolies or duopolies in the majority of the country. If freedom to compete actually existed in the market, then removing regulations would spur growth. Unfortunately competition does not exist currently, and won't exist after repeal. The FCC is addressing the wrong problem with this.

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                                          scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                                          @kelly said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          Fundamentally repealing Net Neutrality is the right thing to do...if ISPs were not monopolies or duopolies in the majority of the country. If freedom to compete actually existed in the market, then removing regulations would spur growth. Unfortunately competition does not exist currently, and won't exist after repeal. The FCC is addressing the wrong problem with this.

                                          I'm not sure that I agree - even in an open market, do you want infrastructure suppliers choosing what you RECEIVE?

                                          For example, UPS and FedEx don't choose to deliver some types of products or from different companies - everything costs the same and comes at the same speed. They don't choose to make certain vendors unable to deliver to you or make some packages slow to discredit those vendors and it would be good for no one if they did.

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                                            momurda @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller Dont forget Pro War, Pro Poverty, Pro Fear, Pro Tax, Pro Police State, Anti Freedom

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