Looking for a Career Path
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@Mike-Ralston said:
Lots of good stuff, thank you A.J.
Not a problem. Half the battle of initially getting into IT for MOST people is they don't know where to start. If you don't have a mentor who knows the field it can be VERY difficult. I see it a lot. People try to learn 50 different things because they keep getting pulled in different directions. Knowing two or three things VERY well beats knowing fifty things kinda every time. A jack-of-all-trades will get an L1 or MAYBE an L2 job. Engineers are specialists who have "minors" in other topics. But being subpar at tons of things is just a sign of not being able to settle on a choice or shows a lack of commitment to learning/lack of dedication.
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@ajstringham said:
UNIX is more proprietary. Linux is basically Unix that a Norwegian named Linus Torvalds took and modified.
UNIX is only an open standard. There is nothing proprietary whatsoever in UNIX.
Linux is more than basically UNIX, it is UNIX. The creator of UNIX called it the reference implementation actually.
Linus is Finnish. Finland has no relationship with Norway and isn't even Scandinavian.
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@Mike-Ralston said:
Thank you for clearing that up. Always heard those terms thrown around, but never actually discerned what it was.
UNIX comes from the early 1970s and took a long time to really gain ground. The idea was so good that it eventually eliminated most competition.
Today only Windows and UNIX have any real presence in business computing.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
UNIX is more proprietary. Linux is basically Unix that a Norwegian named Linus Torvalds took and modified.
UNIX is only an open standard. There is nothing proprietary whatsoever in UNIX.
Linux is more than basically UNIX, it is UNIX. The creator of UNIX called it the reference implementation actually.
Linus is Finnish. Finland has no relationship with Norway and isn't even Scandinavian.
Ok, I couldn't remember if it was Norwegian or Finnish. And wow, okay. I had no idea Finland was not part of Scandinavia. That's news to me...
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@scottalanmiller I don't believe there is even a Mac Server OS, is there? And I mean Mac. Not something Linux pretending.
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@ajstringham said:
Understanding the history behind a lot of these things is good too. While practically no one (I hope) uses a token ring network model anymore....
What about FCoTR
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@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller I don't believe there is even a Mac Server OS, is there? And I mean Mac. Not something Linux pretending.
Oddly there is. But no server hardware to deploy it on. There is a Mac Mini config that they designate as a server. Uses RAID 1.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
Understanding the history behind a lot of these things is good too. While practically no one (I hope) uses a token ring network model anymore....
What about FCoTR
Interesting...never heard of that before...
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@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
Understanding the history behind a lot of these things is good too. While practically no one (I hope) uses a token ring network model anymore....
What about FCoTR
Interesting...never heard of that before...
Storage industry inside joke.
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@scottalanmiller There used to be hardware for Mac OSX server - the XServe. The Fruit company quit with that in 2010.
You can read about it here. -
When I was at IBM in 2001 we were still in 4Mb/a token ring. It was horrible.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
Understanding the history behind a lot of these things is good too. While practically no one (I hope) uses a token ring network model anymore....
What about FCoTR
Interesting...never heard of that before...
Storage industry inside joke.
Ok, so it's not real? Don't screw with me like this. I don't have the adequate understanding to differentiate between a joke and a fact at that level yet.
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@Katie said:
@scottalanmiller There used to be hardware for Mac OSX server - the XServe. The Fruit company quit with that in 2010.
You can read about it here.It was always a weak offering. Dual proc but only three drive bays. The Mac Mini option is nearly as good.
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@katie So does Apple use Windows Server to manage their computers or is it just a free-for-all at HQ?
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Apple runs predominantly on RHEL. They use a bit of AIX too.
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@ajstringham said:
@katie So does Apple use Windows Server to manage their computers or is it just a free-for-all at HQ?
I cant remember, since it's been about 7 years since I worked for them. I vaguely remember a mixed server environment. It's likely quite a bit different now.
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@Katie said:
@ajstringham said:
@katie So does Apple use Windows Server to manage their computers or is it just a free-for-all at HQ?
I cant remember, since it's been about 7 years since I worked for them. I vaguely remember a mixed server environment. It's likely quite a bit different now.
I think that'd be pretty funny...
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
UNIX is more proprietary. Linux is basically Unix that a Norwegian named Linus Torvalds took and modified.
UNIX is only an open standard. There is nothing proprietary whatsoever in UNIX.
Bell Labs begs to differ.
True System V UNIX is closed to the core. BSD is "open" but has tight control over the kernel. Linux is GNU open, so it's not proprietary at all.
Linux is not UNIX, even if it looks and feels the same.
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@PSX_Defector said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
UNIX is more proprietary. Linux is basically Unix that a Norwegian named Linus Torvalds took and modified.
UNIX is only an open standard. There is nothing proprietary whatsoever in UNIX.
Bell Labs begs to differ.
True System V UNIX is closed to the core. BSD is "open" but has tight control over the kernel. Linux is GNU open, so it's not proprietary at all.
Linux is not UNIX, even if it looks and feels the same.
Bell sold UNIX long ago. And it was Dennis at Bell who made the statement.
Bell's UNIX distro might be proprietary. But UNIX refers to the standard, not any implementation. UNIX is purely open. Any given implementation, a la AIX, may opt to be open or closed.
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System V wasn't closed either. Even though it was non-free it actually was sold as code originally.
But don't mix UNIX with System V. They are not the same thing. System V is UNIX and implements the open ABI. But UNIX is not System V.
