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    • black3dynamiteB
      black3dynamite @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch

      I found some sites that might help solve this issue you're having.
      https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/QoS-clarification/td-p/624635
      http://xmodulo.com/how-to-set-up-qos-bandwidth-rate-limit-vyatta-router.html

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1
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        I'd like to know this as well. Depending on what I hear back on a project, I may have to recommend something other than Ubiquiti.

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          manxam
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          @JaredBusch, The ERX, ER8, and Infinity all have faster processors and more cores than the ERL. I know that the ERX has other failings, but it handles QoS and OpenVPN much better than the ERL does.

          The ERL could not handle fqcodel on my 150/150 but the ERX could. It may be worth the $49 to test it.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @black3dynamite
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            @black3dynamite said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

            @jaredbusch

            I found some sites that might help solve this issue you're having.
            https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/QoS-clarification/td-p/624635
            http://xmodulo.com/how-to-set-up-qos-bandwidth-rate-limit-vyatta-router.html

            I know how to perform QoS in more than one way on EdgeOS. The problem is that you cannot offload QoS traffic, so that means the processor has to handle it.

            With QoS processes running, the CPU pegs and the the bandwidth is as noted above. I get that, and I expect that.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @manxam
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              @manxam said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

              @JaredBusch, The ERX, ER8, and Infinity all have faster processors and more cores than the ERL. I know that the ERX has other failings, but it handles QoS and OpenVPN much better than the ERL does.

              The ERL could not handle fqcodel on my 150/150 but the ERX could. It may be worth the $49 to test it.

              The fqcodel option is worse than just DSCP checking. I could only get 35mbps out of it on an ER-PoE or an ERL, when the DSCP style gets me 65mbps.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee
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                @JaredBusch So what is the solution to hitting the limits?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                  @fateknollogee said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                  @JaredBusch So what is the solution to hitting the limits?

                  Change how you use it or but the next size up unit.

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                    krisleslie @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller

                    I just saw the price of the Infinity lol I realized I need to go down a level 🙂
                    I'm hitting the same issue. I think we have maxed out our Edge Router (it get's insanely hot and utilization is often spiking to 70-90% with the QoS enabled.

                    I also so my 300 Mbps download speed drop to 100-160 Mbps (if I was lucky) and my 20 Mbps upload speed dropped to around 10-12 Mbps with the QoS enabled. I don't think it can handle the number of endpoints, QoS, and packet filtering we have on it. But at my other site, with same router but less people, endpoints etc they are just trucking along just fine. Of course there on a 100-150 Mbps download and 10-15 Mbps upload. But I think when everyone is on with every device, it's handling it fine.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @krisleslie
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                      @krisleslie said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                      @scottalanmiller

                      I just saw the price of the Infinity lol I realized I need to go down a level 🙂
                      I'm hitting the same issue. I think we have maxed out our Edge Router (it get's insanely hot and utilization is often spiking to 70-90% with the QoS enabled.

                      I also so my 300 Mbps download speed drop to 100-160 Mbps (if I was lucky) and my 20 Mbps upload speed dropped to around 10-12 Mbps with the QoS enabled. I don't think it can handle the number of endpoints, QoS, and packet filtering we have on it. But at my other site, with same router but less people, endpoints etc they are just trucking along just fine. Of course there on a 100-150 Mbps download and 10-15 Mbps upload. But I think when everyone is on with every device, it's handling it fine.

                      ER-X or another model? They're all limited when doing QoS, so not really a surprise, but the other models all have a little beter cpu.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                        Change how you use it or but the next size up unit.

                        Which one is considered the next size up?

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
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                          @fateknollogee said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                          Change how you use it or but the next size up unit.

                          Which one is considered the next size up?

                          The ER Pro is the best model.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                            @fateknollogee said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                            Change how you use it or but the next size up unit.

                            Which one is considered the next size up?

                            The ER Pro is the best model.

                            Well shy of the brand new infinity

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                              @jaredbusch said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                              Well shy of the brand new infinity

                              The ER-Pro or Infinity do not suffer from the same constraints as the ERL?

                              How is VPN performance on the ER-Pro & Infinity?

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
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                                @fateknollogee said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                                @jaredbusch said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                                Well shy of the brand new infinity

                                The ER-Pro or Infinity do not suffer from the same constraints as the ERL?

                                Of course they have the same constraints. But the processors are different, so the maximums will be different.

                                How is VPN performance on the ER-Pro & Infinity?

                                I discussed nothing about VPN performance.

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                                  krisleslie @JaredBusch
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                                  @jaredbusch VPN performance is better than my SonicWall. It's obviously better than my old linksys too lol. But with a 300 (up to 400) Mbps and 20 (up to 30) Mbps internet, I want as much bandwidth as I can get.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @krisleslie
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                                    @krisleslie said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                                    @jaredbusch VPN performance is better than my SonicWall. It's obviously better than my old linksys too lol. But with a 300 (up to 400) Mbps and 20 (up to 30) Mbps internet, I want as much bandwidth as I can get.

                                    If you want to ask about VPN constraints, there are basically none. You can get near line performance for anything short of 500mbps as long as you have it properly offloaded.

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                                      krisleslie @JaredBusch
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                                      @jaredbusch My apologies, I meant QoS!

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                                        @krisleslie said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                                        @jaredbusch VPN performance is better than my SonicWall. It's obviously better than my old linksys too lol. But with a 300 (up to 400) Mbps and 20 (up to 30) Mbps internet, I want as much bandwidth as I can get.

                                        "Better than my SonicWall" is the networking world's equivalent of "it out performed my Pinto".

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @krisleslie
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                                          @krisleslie said in Hitting the limits of the Ubiquiti EdgeRouter:

                                          @jaredbusch My apologies, I meant QoS!

                                          Well then, yes, better QoS performance because better processors.

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