Cell phones survey
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@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@marcinozga said in Cell phones survey:
@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@marcinozga said in Cell phones survey:
I've heard good things about Cortana, and that was one of the major points why people liked their Windows phones. I just had the chance to use Cortana to set up new PC at work, and it's just dumb. I asked her to change time zone to EST, nope, she tried to open settings panel for me to change it, which froze. I asked her to uninstall McAfee, nope, she tried to search for something. Finally I told her to get lost, she went quiet after that, she got that part right. It's a safe bet to assume she's just as dumb on phone. Even NYPD is replacing their Windows phones with iPhones right now.
Wow - while asking Cortana to do those things (change timezone, uninstall an app) are definitely cool ideas - I don't believe any personal assistant does those things right now.
At least Cortana tried to get you to the setting page, not sure why it froze.
Does Siri do any of these things?
I think your ask is currently unrealistic (primarily on the uninstall an app front). Will we get it some day, sure.
Did you try the other things that Cortana can do? send a SMS message? start a phone call? add a calendar entry? create a reminder?Why unrealistic? Most software can be uninstalled silently through wmic, so why wouldn't Cortana do it? I don't know about Siri as I hardly ever use it, but I use Alexa a lot, she can order pizza for example, which is a lot more complex task than uninstalling software. Changing time zone should be dead simple too, I will test it with both Alexa and Siri when I get home.
As for other things, no, I was setting up a PC, so none of the above tasks are relevant, but both Alexa and Siri can do those too.Unrealistic because they just aren't things that have been made available yet. You couldn't order pizza on the day that Alexa was released, hell, not for years after it was released, but they added that feature and today you can.
So as I already mentioned - in the future I fully expect you to be able to do that. And assuming MS can ever actually get a decent Windows Store - you should be able to install software that way too.
Cortana is a personal assistant, more attune to secretary, at this point. I don't expect more secretaries to be able to install/uninstall software on my computer.
Not years, months. Echo has been publicly available since June 2015, pizza ordering became available in February 2016, perhaps even earlier than that.
Cortana was released even before Echo was available to prime invitees.
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@marcinozga said in Cell phones survey:
@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@marcinozga said in Cell phones survey:
@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@marcinozga said in Cell phones survey:
I've heard good things about Cortana, and that was one of the major points why people liked their Windows phones. I just had the chance to use Cortana to set up new PC at work, and it's just dumb. I asked her to change time zone to EST, nope, she tried to open settings panel for me to change it, which froze. I asked her to uninstall McAfee, nope, she tried to search for something. Finally I told her to get lost, she went quiet after that, she got that part right. It's a safe bet to assume she's just as dumb on phone. Even NYPD is replacing their Windows phones with iPhones right now.
Wow - while asking Cortana to do those things (change timezone, uninstall an app) are definitely cool ideas - I don't believe any personal assistant does those things right now.
At least Cortana tried to get you to the setting page, not sure why it froze.
Does Siri do any of these things?
I think your ask is currently unrealistic (primarily on the uninstall an app front). Will we get it some day, sure.
Did you try the other things that Cortana can do? send a SMS message? start a phone call? add a calendar entry? create a reminder?Why unrealistic? Most software can be uninstalled silently through wmic, so why wouldn't Cortana do it? I don't know about Siri as I hardly ever use it, but I use Alexa a lot, she can order pizza for example, which is a lot more complex task than uninstalling software. Changing time zone should be dead simple too, I will test it with both Alexa and Siri when I get home.
As for other things, no, I was setting up a PC, so none of the above tasks are relevant, but both Alexa and Siri can do those too.Unrealistic because they just aren't things that have been made available yet. You couldn't order pizza on the day that Alexa was released, hell, not for years after it was released, but they added that feature and today you can.
So as I already mentioned - in the future I fully expect you to be able to do that. And assuming MS can ever actually get a decent Windows Store - you should be able to install software that way too.
Cortana is a personal assistant, more attune to secretary, at this point. I don't expect more secretaries to be able to install/uninstall software on my computer.
Not years, months. Echo was publicly available since June 2015, pizza ordering became available in February 2016, perhaps even earlier than that.
Cortana was released even before Echo was available to prime invitees.
And your point? Just because they aren't making Cortana do uninstalls doesn't mean it's not useful.
And besides, Amazon didn't make the app for ordering pizza, the Pizza vendor did via the APIs for the alexa. So two different groups working to give you want you want.
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
https://www.cnet.com/news/google-removes-android-malware-downloaded-up-to-5-9m-times/
Almost forgot about this thread. I think it's time to upgrade now! Although the 8 and X don't really impress me. Maybe I'll go for the 7 plus.
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Looks like Google will annouce the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL on Oct 4th.
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@coliver said in Cell phones survey:
Looks like Google will annouce the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL on Oct 4th.
I am not holding my breath for sd card capability.
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The iPhone X seems decent. I think this is the very first iPhone I wouldn't mind having. It took them what, like 17 or 18 tries to finally make something decent.
But the cost of it... paying over $1300 for a phone is just plain stupid. Maybe for rich CEOs and Execs that like to flaunt their worth, and poor people who like to spend all their money on crap like that... but you get my point.
I'm still drawn to the Asus Zenfone 4 Pro. It's better than half the price, and better hardware imho. Not as many little features, but IT'S $600 or less vs $1300+!!
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
The iPhone X seems decent. I think this is the very first iPhone I wouldn't mind having. It took them what, like 17 or 18 tries to finally make something decent.
But the cost of it... paying over $1300 for a phone is just plain stupid. Maybe for rich CEOs and Execs that like to flaunt their worth, and poor people who like to spend all their money on crap like that... but you get my point.
I'm still drawn to the Asus Zenfone 4 Pro. It's better than half the price, and better hardware imho. Not as many little features, but IT'S $600 or less vs $1300+!!
True story! No way am I paying that for a cell phone. You can get a great laptop for that price.
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If you're already a consumer of Amazon's services, you can get a Moto 5 Plus for a pretty reasonable price. It isn't a flagship phone, but it does everything I need it to, and at a price I can afford to replace (if it gets broken). I really like what Moto is doing with their software on the main button on the phone. It is a fingerprint reader like so many others, but if you set it up you can use it as a home button, a la iPhone. If you swipe left it goes back, if you swipe right it opens your app switcher, and if you do a long press it locks your phone. They've also used the gyro scope to give you easy access to things like the flashlight (two chopping motions), camera (twist your wrist while holding the phone), etc.
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
The iPhone X seems decent. I think this is the very first iPhone I wouldn't mind having. It took them what, like 17 or 18 tries to finally make something decent.
But the cost of it... paying over $1300 for a phone is just plain stupid. Maybe for rich CEOs and Execs that like to flaunt their worth, and poor people who like to spend all their money on crap like that... but you get my point.
I'm still drawn to the Asus Zenfone 4 Pro. It's better than half the price, and better hardware imho. Not as many little features, but IT'S $600 or less vs $1300+!!
I am all about the Apple Eco system for TMQ but I think this one is nuts.
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@wrx7m said in Cell phones survey:
@coliver said in Cell phones survey:
Looks like Google will annouce the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL on Oct 4th.
I am not holding my breath for sd card capability.
I think that time is over on the major phones.
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@minion-queen said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
The iPhone X seems decent. I think this is the very first iPhone I wouldn't mind having. It took them what, like 17 or 18 tries to finally make something decent.
But the cost of it... paying over $1300 for a phone is just plain stupid. Maybe for rich CEOs and Execs that like to flaunt their worth, and poor people who like to spend all their money on crap like that... but you get my point.
I'm still drawn to the Asus Zenfone 4 Pro. It's better than half the price, and better hardware imho. Not as many little features, but IT'S $600 or less vs $1300+!!
I am all about the Apple Eco system for TMQ but I think this one is nuts.
Is the 256 GB iPhone X $1300? The 64 GB is only $999
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@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@wrx7m said in Cell phones survey:
@coliver said in Cell phones survey:
Looks like Google will annouce the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL on Oct 4th.
I am not holding my breath for sd card capability.
I think that time is over on the major phones.
All the major phones let you add a micro SD card, but not Apple. Galaxy Note 8, much better than iPhone X, allows you to add one. (plus it's hundreds cheaper, but still close to $1k)
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@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@minion-queen said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
The iPhone X seems decent. I think this is the very first iPhone I wouldn't mind having. It took them what, like 17 or 18 tries to finally make something decent.
But the cost of it... paying over $1300 for a phone is just plain stupid. Maybe for rich CEOs and Execs that like to flaunt their worth, and poor people who like to spend all their money on crap like that... but you get my point.
I'm still drawn to the Asus Zenfone 4 Pro. It's better than half the price, and better hardware imho. Not as many little features, but IT'S $600 or less vs $1300+!!
I am all about the Apple Eco system for TMQ but I think this one is nuts.
Is the 256 GB iPhone X $1300? The 64 GB is only $999
The 256 GB version is $1,150, plus AppleCare+ $200, plus taxes is about a total of $1,450.
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
The iPhone X seems decent. I think this is the very first iPhone I wouldn't mind having. It took them what, like 17 or 18 tries to finally make something decent.
But the cost of it... paying over $1300 for a phone is just plain stupid. Maybe for rich CEOs and Execs that like to flaunt their worth, and poor people who like to spend all their money on crap like that... but you get my point.
I'm still drawn to the Asus Zenfone 4 Pro. It's better than half the price, and better hardware imho. Not as many little features, but IT'S $600 or less vs $1300+!!
Yeah paying that much for a phone is crazy but can you blame Apple for people willing to buy it? I do like how the other competitors will give customers so many feature and still keep the price down.
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@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@wrx7m said in Cell phones survey:
@coliver said in Cell phones survey:
Looks like Google will annouce the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL on Oct 4th.
I am not holding my breath for sd card capability.
I think that time is over on the major phones.
All the major phones let you add a micro SD card, but not Apple. Galaxy Note 8, much better than iPhone X, allows you to add one. (plus it's hundreds cheaper, but still close to $1k)
oh, did Samsung backpeddle?
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@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@tim_g said in Cell phones survey:
@dashrender said in Cell phones survey:
@wrx7m said in Cell phones survey:
@coliver said in Cell phones survey:
Looks like Google will annouce the Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL on Oct 4th.
I am not holding my breath for sd card capability.
I think that time is over on the major phones.
All the major phones let you add a micro SD card, but not Apple. Galaxy Note 8, much better than iPhone X, allows you to add one. (plus it's hundreds cheaper, but still close to $1k)
oh, did Samsung backpeddle?
I wouldn't call it a backpeddle. Why would you buy a phone with 64GB of storage, without the ability to add more? I know people (including myself) that goes over that on phones. It would be horrible to not be able to add more via a good micro SD card. In fact, I would not even purchase a phone that either didn't come with at least 256+ GB of onboard storage THIS YEAR and didn't have an option to add more. That's why I don't see the 64GB iPhone X as a usable option, but the bigger one is (not considering the price).
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Now if they removed the ability to add a micro SD card, but provided enough on-board storage for the times we live in (256GB+ in 2017), then sure... no need for a micro SD card.
