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    Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @creayt
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      @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

      @jaredbusch For Server 2016 right? Saw that, pretty annoying. But I like the idea of breaking things up into containers eventually so I may bite the bullet. At the moment I have 1 2012 R2 license which I think works for the decacore server w/ no extra licensing.

      Correct. What hypervisor you using?

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      • creaytC
        creayt @Dashrender
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        @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @creayt
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          @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

          @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

          Prepare for the wrath of the Mango!

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @creayt
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            @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

            @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

            Um No.

            Stop now.

            Re-evaluate your needs.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @creayt
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              @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

              @creayt Also forgot to bring up that Raid 0 also gives me way more capacity right so it'd give me terabyte(s) more before I had to scale to extra hardware? Can't remember how much Raid 5 subtracts.

              RAID 5 removed one drive. So you'd buy one extra drive for each node. This would, in theory, give you a read performance boost, and a write deficit.

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              • coliverC
                coliver @creayt
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                @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

                Yep. This is a bad idea.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @creayt
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                  @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                  @jaredbusch For Server 2016 right? Saw that, pretty annoying. But I like the idea of breaking things up into containers eventually so I may bite the bullet. At the moment I have 1 2012 R2 license which I think works for the decacore server w/ no extra licensing.

                  THat's correct.

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                  • creaytC
                    creayt
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                    About to benchmark a 5-drive Raid 5 to compare it to the Raid 0 results I've benchmarked so far. Does anyone remember if you're supposed to create the VD w/ a size that's smaller than the full capacity to redeem the benefits of over provisioning or not?

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                    • creaytC
                      creayt @DustinB3403
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                      @dustinb3403 ? Not sure what you mean/are referring to.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @creayt
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                        @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                        @dustinb3403 ? Not sure what you mean/are referring to.

                        You ALWAYS virtualize, unless you have a specific reason to not. i.e. can't think of anything.

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                        • creaytC
                          creayt @Dashrender
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                          @dashrender If anyone can name a single benefit of virtualizing given my description of this project's goals and needs I'll be very impressed.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @creayt
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                            @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                            @dashrender No virtualization at all, just throwing the full horsepower of each box at the servereware 🙂

                            The overhead of a hypervisor shouldn't even be a consideration. There is literally 0 benefit to doing this. You could use a hypervisor and have a true HA setup so if a node takes a nose dive, everything is instantly (I mean instantly) up on another node.

                            You wouldn't even have time to blink.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              The performance hit from virtualization will be so many times less than the RAID 5 penalty, you won't notice it.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @creayt
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                                @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                                @dashrender If anyone can name a single benefit of virtualizing given my description of this project's goals and needs I'll be very impressed.

                                easier backups.

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                                • creaytC
                                  creayt @Dashrender
                                  last edited by creayt

                                  @dashrender Some reasons not to for this project:

                                  Performance goals
                                  Time to restore a failed server would increase w/ virtualization ( extra thing to configure )
                                  One less thing to manage
                                  Easier scaling licensewise

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @creayt
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                                    @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                                    @dashrender If anyone can name a single benefit of virtualizing given my description of this project's goals and needs I'll be very impressed.

                                    Easier failover to another machine.

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                                    • creaytC
                                      creayt @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender Would actually be less-easy failover in this instance, no?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        It's free to virtualize.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @creayt
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                                          @creayt said in Is this server strategy reckless and/or insane?:

                                          @dashrender Would actually be less-easy failover in this instance, no?

                                          It would be easier to fail-over when you are virtual.

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                                          • creaytC
                                            creayt @Dashrender
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                                            @dashrender "Easier backups", how so? Seems less-easy.

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