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    Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?

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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22
      last edited by wirestyle22

      I think I'd need to promote one of the childs to root and then retire the old root domain, which would be a child at that point

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @wirestyle22
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        @wirestyle22 said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

        I think I'd need to promote one of the childs to root and then retire the old root domain, which would be a child at that point

        I'm not even sure what this means - I've never heard of making a child domain into a root domain. 😉

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Dashrender
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          @dashrender said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

          @wirestyle22 said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

          I think I'd need to promote one of the childs to root and then retire the old root domain, which would be a child at that point

          I'm not even sure what this means - I've never heard of making a child domain into a root domain. 😉

          How can you even think that you can delete a root? Everything stems from it.you have to have root.

          FFS?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato
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              @dashrender said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

              ? So is this site stuck with a possible split horizon DNS setup for life (assuming the use of city.com externally as well as internally)?

              You cannot retire a root AD domain with child domains (They all would be retired). The best option is to create a new forest separately and then use ADMT to migrate the subdomain to the new forest.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
                last edited by Obsolesce

                You'll need to migrate everything to the root domain "city.com". Then you can kill off the child domain "ad.city.com".

                Or migrate everything to the child domain and leave the root domain empty.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @dbeato
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                  @dbeato said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                  @dashrender said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                  ? So is this site stuck with a possible split horizon DNS setup for life (assuming the use of city.com externally as well as internally)?

                  You cannot retire a root AD domain with child domains (They all would be retired). The best option is to create a new forest separately and then use ADMT to migrate the subdomain to the new forest.

                  This would almost certainly break exchange.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                    @tim_g said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                    You'll need to migrate everything to the root domain "city.com". Then you can kill off the child domain "ad.city.com".

                    Or migrate everything to the child domain and leave the root domain empty.

                    This is definitely an option but this doesn't solve the problem of the split horizon DNS possibly. Which is the entire reason to remove the root domain in the first place.
                    Instead it seems like the only option today is to migrate everything to the root and then rename the root.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                      @dashrender said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                      @tim_g said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                      You'll need to migrate everything to the root domain "city.com". Then you can kill off the child domain "ad.city.com".

                      Or migrate everything to the child domain and leave the root domain empty.

                      This is definitely an option but this doesn't solve the problem of the split horizon DNS possibly. Which is the entire reason to remove the root domain in the first place.
                      Instead it seems like the only option today is to migrate everything to the root and then rename the root.

                      Or use O365. No real reason for any SMB to have on-prem Exchange.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                        @tim_g said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                        @dashrender said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                        @tim_g said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                        You'll need to migrate everything to the root domain "city.com". Then you can kill off the child domain "ad.city.com".

                        Or migrate everything to the child domain and leave the root domain empty.

                        This is definitely an option but this doesn't solve the problem of the split horizon DNS possibly. Which is the entire reason to remove the root domain in the first place.
                        Instead it seems like the only option today is to migrate everything to the root and then rename the root.

                        Or use O365. No real reason for any SMB to have on-prem Exchange.

                        This is a city. Sure they are SMB sized but govment. Ya know, dog 😉

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @Obsolesce
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                          @tim_g said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                          @dashrender said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                          @tim_g said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                          You'll need to migrate everything to the root domain "city.com". Then you can kill off the child domain "ad.city.com".

                          Or migrate everything to the child domain and leave the root domain empty.

                          This is definitely an option but this doesn't solve the problem of the split horizon DNS possibly. Which is the entire reason to remove the root domain in the first place.
                          Instead it seems like the only option today is to migrate everything to the root and then rename the root.

                          Or use O365. No real reason for any SMB to have on-prem Exchange.

                          We've priced it out and are waiting. Like I said, it takes over a year just to purchase a switch.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                            @wirestyle22 said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                            @tim_g said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                            @dashrender said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                            @tim_g said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                            You'll need to migrate everything to the root domain "city.com". Then you can kill off the child domain "ad.city.com".

                            Or migrate everything to the child domain and leave the root domain empty.

                            This is definitely an option but this doesn't solve the problem of the split horizon DNS possibly. Which is the entire reason to remove the root domain in the first place.
                            Instead it seems like the only option today is to migrate everything to the root and then rename the root.

                            Or use O365. No real reason for any SMB to have on-prem Exchange.

                            We've priced it out and are waiting. Like I said, it takes over a year just to purchase a switch.

                            LOL

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                              @tim_g said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                              @dashrender said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                              @tim_g said in Can you retire a root AD domain when it has child domains?:

                              You'll need to migrate everything to the root domain "city.com". Then you can kill off the child domain "ad.city.com".

                              Or migrate everything to the child domain and leave the root domain empty.

                              This is definitely an option but this doesn't solve the problem of the split horizon DNS possibly. Which is the entire reason to remove the root domain in the first place.
                              Instead it seems like the only option today is to migrate everything to the root and then rename the root.

                              Or use O365. No real reason for any SMB to have on-prem Exchange.

                              We've priced it out and are waiting. Like I said, it takes over a year just to purchase a switch.

                              LOL

                              The world's smallest violin is playing just for me

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @Dashrender
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                                @dashrender Yeah... which means you are stuck with what you have unless there is some design change or migration to another domain.

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