Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX
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@scottalanmiller said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@scottalanmiller i don't think those are hard items to setup when we are talking about the target audience being other guys who are learning to deploy FreePBX.
That can't be the target audience if we are comparing to email, though.
Well, guys use to install exchange or some FOSS email server, because hosting it was $15 to $20 per mailbox (say with intermedia circus 2005) with archiving.
Now it's $4/user/month with a 50GB archive and 50GB mailbox.
Hosted PBx is $20+ per user now. So people are deploying FreePBX. If it was $4 or $5 per extension would everyone move to that service?
Again I may be on an tangent with the PaaS thing. I think dialpad is great and if there were a FOSS version of it I would be using just that.
You're talking about 300 employees at dialpad who have already made innovative products vs FreePBX's 30 people? So I am not criticizing FreePBX.
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@dashrender said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
I have already built a free PBX system for them.
This is inside of a Vultr Account that they will loan and pay for directly. The same will go for their trunks.
The only thing that they will be paying monthly for outside of the hosting fees and the trunks is monthly support to me to maintain the PBX. they will also be paying me an hourly fee whenever I have to create new users or make other changes to the system per their directive.
Of course still have to pay for their own phones as well.How much does it cost vs gen upgrading dialpad? I mean their end cost?
I know to get the handsets you have to pay more than the original $15/month cost.
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@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@scottalanmiller i don't think those are hard items to setup when we are talking about the target audience being other guys who are learning to deploy FreePBX.
That can't be the target audience if we are comparing to email, though.
Well, guys use to install exchange or some FOSS email server, because hosting it was $15 to $20 per mailbox (say with intermedia circus 2005) with archiving.
Now it's $4/user/month with a 50GB archive and 50GB mailbox.
Hosted PBx is $20+ per user now. So people are deploying FreePBX. If it was $4 or $5 per extension would everyone move to that service?
Again I may be on an tangent with the PaaS thing. I think dialpad is great and if there were a FOSS version of it I would be using just that.
You're talking about 300 employees at dialpad who have already made innovative products vs FreePBX's 30 people? So I am not criticizing FreePBX.
That's the difference. I don't think that they are the same. One is about price, one is about complexity. Email was never complex in that way, even when it was expensive.
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So finding a FOSS pbx is the much better alternative, not getting a "flowroute for PBX"?
I've been playing with FusionPBX all day. I do wish Monster UI from a kazoo was built for a single server deployment...
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Installed FusionPBX and am actually going to cut over a friend's business next week after another day of testing from a $5 FreePBX isntance. They have about 4 locations and 60 phones. Lots of issues here lately with phones losing registration and having to be defaulted and reconfigured. They run their own instance so I am not sure if it is a FreePBX issue or something they did.
At least on all the phones I am testing Freeswitch certainly is faster, but that has always been the case in my experience over asterisk. I am running it on Jessie and I believe I could host a dozen tenants and hundreds of phones off a $5 or $10 vultr instance.
Also, no banner ads and no questions around the FOSS and licensing. Has an easy way to add your own CSS, GUI and Branding as well.
It's come a LONG way.
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Definitely interesting, will be following.
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@scottalanmiller Just emailed the main developer tonight to talk about security with public deployments (i.e. vultr) so we can get a similar guide together like the ones @JaredBusch has provided for FreePBX
Wish I was at MangoCon right now...
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@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
Wish I was at MangoCon right now...
You should have been here! It's always so fun
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An update on this. I am working on putting together some real simple instructions, as well as documentation to Twilio for setting up FusionPBX.
Have got a lot of help from @markjcrane and the other guys on freenode.
Moved over a couple tenants today and was actually able to simplify the customers setup to get things working more to their liking.
@EddieJennings you should consider doing a test run of Fusion before you do that FreePBX install. See also my comments in your thread about the NJ VULTR instance.
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@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
An update on this. I am working on putting together some real simple instructions, as well as documentation to Twilio for setting up FusionPBX.
Have got a lot of help from @markjcrane and the other guys on freenode.
Moved over a couple tenants today and was actually able to simplify the customers setup to get things working more to their liking.
@EddieJennings you should consider doing a test run of Fusion before you do that FreePBX install. See also my comments in your thread about the NJ VULTR instance.
You keep saying this, but just no. @EddieJennings has no skill whatsoever with PBX management or phone systems. If Fusion was good for this type of person you would not be needing to make the guides you are making.
Does that mean that Fusion is a bad choice? heck no. But it is not for the layman at this time.
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@jaredbusch said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
An update on this. I am working on putting together some real simple instructions, as well as documentation to Twilio for setting up FusionPBX.
Have got a lot of help from @markjcrane and the other guys on freenode.
Moved over a couple tenants today and was actually able to simplify the customers setup to get things working more to their liking.
@EddieJennings you should consider doing a test run of Fusion before you do that FreePBX install. See also my comments in your thread about the NJ VULTR instance.
You keep saying this, but just no. @EddieJennings has no skill whatsoever with PBX management or phone systems. If Fusion was good for this type of person you would not be needing to make the guides you are making.
Does that mean that Fusion is a bad choice? heck no. But it is not for the layman at this time.
If ever you guys start doing FusionPBX mgmt like you FreePBX services I will be sending you, as my kids would say, "hella" business.
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@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@jaredbusch said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
An update on this. I am working on putting together some real simple instructions, as well as documentation to Twilio for setting up FusionPBX.
Have got a lot of help from @markjcrane and the other guys on freenode.
Moved over a couple tenants today and was actually able to simplify the customers setup to get things working more to their liking.
@EddieJennings you should consider doing a test run of Fusion before you do that FreePBX install. See also my comments in your thread about the NJ VULTR instance.
You keep saying this, but just no. @EddieJennings has no skill whatsoever with PBX management or phone systems. If Fusion was good for this type of person you would not be needing to make the guides you are making.
Does that mean that Fusion is a bad choice? heck no. But it is not for the layman at this time.
If ever you guys start doing FusionPBX mgmt like you FreePBX services I will be sending you, as my kids would say, "hella" business.
Oh, I am installing it today (now actually). Don't take my post the wrong way. I never had a problem with FreeSwitch back in the day from a functionality point of view.
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@jaredbusch you are right, there are things I am muttling through. But once I get each thing working I realize if there was more documentation I could have got it done much quicker.
The current documentation is great, but still assumes some general competencies most lack.
Its actually a product that would be even better as a managed service than FreePBX, following your guys model.
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@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
An update on this. I am working on putting together some real simple instructions, as well as documentation to Twilio for setting up FusionPBX.
Have got a lot of help from @markjcrane and the other guys on freenode.
Did these instructions ever happen?
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@dashrender said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
Assuming they moved to a support only model for revenue, would they have to charge an arm and a leg like XO to cover their bases, basically driving the support cost out of most SMB anyway?LOL
@scottalanmiller said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@dashrender said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
@bigbear said in Let's Convince Someone to release a FOSS PBX:
When you consider the exposure these guys are missing vs the small amount of revenue they get from their baseline PBX products... how many times a week do you tell someone to use FreePBX?
The question is how small is it? Do we really know?
Assuming they moved to a support only model for revenue, would they have to charge an arm and a leg like XO to cover their bases, basically driving the support cost out of most SMB anyway?
XO doesn't have to, their investors make them. Not the same thing.
Not true. It was more a seed raising.
edit: hahahahahahaha. I think I just understand, XO meant not "Xen Orchestra"
Sorry for the confusion it didn't really made sense 
Sorry 
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@bigbear This is still a good idea. How is it going now?
