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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @A Former User
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      @thecreativeone91 said:

      You'd have to have a large infrastructure (the size of Google/Facebook) for desktop components to make sense like that. Very few have that big of a setup.

      If you go down the VDI route, it does not take that.

      Also, desktop hardware can easily be cheap shit now for a company with a solid desktop imaging setup. Cheap doesn't mean any and every thing. Go with low cost but the same base components and your images will still be solid.

      You easily have a lot of ways to drop hardware costs if you really want to. In ways that do not drive up the labor costs.

      It comes down to planning.

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        Martin9700 @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said:

        Amazing? Not quite. Instructive? Definitely.

        I left the same feedback I leave each year on a basic session I attend.

        They need to try and get more advanced sessions that run maybe a double session or session and a half in time.

        We wanted to do a more advanced session along with the Introduction one, but since Jeffrey Snover was there doing his JEA session they didn't want three PowerShell sessions going. I was thinking a session on tool building would be interesting, but it was a no go. Sorry!

        As for the time, I don't disagree, but they only give us the 45-50 minutes (with 10 minutes set aside for Q&A) so we tried to cram in as much as we could while covering the basics to get you started.

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom @Martin9700
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          @Martin9700 said:

          @JaredBusch said:

          Amazing? Not quite. Instructive? Definitely.

          I left the same feedback I leave each year on a basic session I attend.

          They need to try and get more advanced sessions that run maybe a double session or session and a half in time.

          We wanted to do a more advanced session along with the Introduction one, but since Jeffrey Snover was there doing his JEA session they didn't want three PowerShell sessions going. I was thinking a session on tool building would be interesting, but it was a no go. Sorry!

          As for the time, I don't disagree, but they only give us the 45-50 minutes (with 10 minutes set aside for Q&A) so we tried to cram in as much as we could while covering the basics to get you started.

          You did a great job!

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Martin9700
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            @Martin9700 said:

            As for the time, I don't disagree, but they only give us the 45-50 minutes (with 10 minutes set aside for Q&A) so we tried to cram in as much as we could while covering the basics to get you started.

            That is why I leave feedback every year that they need to make longer sessions for specific advanced topics. Maybe one year they will listen.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              @Martin9700 said:

              As for the time, I don't disagree, but they only give us the 45-50 minutes (with 10 minutes set aside for Q&A) so we tried to cram in as much as we could while covering the basics to get you started.

              That is why I leave feedback every year that they need to make longer sessions for specific advanced topics. Maybe one year they will listen.

              I hear you were there! I somehow missed meeting you! 😞

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              • KellyK
                Kelly @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch You can add your input here: http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/592878-spiceworld-austin-suggestion-thread. I'm hoping that the more people we get piling the more likely it is that they will listen. I've heard the same things after every Spiceworld, and it seems like it will take a more concerted effort to get things changed.

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                • NetworkNerdN
                  NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  First new vendor that we met from the conference: https://www.aetherstore.com/

                  One of these days I want to try this. It seemed like a very neat product.

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom @NetworkNerd
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                    @NetworkNerd said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    First new vendor that we met from the conference: https://www.aetherstore.com/

                    One of these days I want to try this. It seemed like a very neat product.

                    Agreed.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Bill Kindle
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                      @Bill-Kindle said:

                      I wish I could have went this year. I had a few vendors I wanted to speak with and I really really really wanted to see Rob & Martin's PowerShell session and Tom Limoncelli speak.

                      They are a perennial favourite. Always do a great job. Best attended session as far as I know.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said:

                        They need to try and get more advanced sessions that run maybe a double session or session and a half in time.

                        It's a tough venue for advanced sessions. And as the event gets larger, the number of more entry level people as a percentage goes up. The intimate group of old timers stays at roughly the same size while the general pool grows.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          820 attendees this year, up slightly from last year. This is the first year in six that the attendance was allowed to go as high as it could rather than being capped by the venue (e.g. it did not sell out.) So this is the organic limit of the conference at the moment. It many ways, I wouldn't want it larger - the event is too short and too "busy" to get to spend enough time with everyone as it is. The more people that attend the harder it gets to spend time with the people who are there.

                          64 vendors this year, which is great but it keeps you really busy on top of seeing people. SO many vendors to see.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            It's a tough venue for advanced sessions. And as the event gets larger, the number of more entry level people as a percentage goes up. The intimate group of old timers stays at roughly the same size while the general pool grows.

                            Not even talking about old timers, but what about a person who was there this year and wants to come next year but to do more advanced topics. The schedule could easily support a couple longer sessions. Not many, certainly, but a couple.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said:

                              Not even talking about old timers, but what about a person who was there this year and wants to come next year but to do more advanced topics. The schedule could easily support a couple longer sessions. Not many, certainly, but a couple.

                              Not much of the stuff that they cover is material on which you can grow, too much. Any particular topics of which you are thinking?

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                              • NetworkNerdN
                                NetworkNerd
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                                I'd like to see some panel sessions that are specifically just Q and A. What if we took 4 of the top VMWare pros, for example, and just let people hammer them with questions?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Doing a Q&A requires a much higher level of expertise.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Not much of the stuff that they cover is material on which you can grow, too much. Any particular topics of which you are thinking?

                                    In a longer session, better material can be covered. The intro to poweshell session is a great example of a basic session by good presenters.

                                    But on the same token, you could easily go deeper and turn it into a powershell scripting session by skipping the repetitive how do i do X? questions that work well in a basic course. Instead you simply tell people here is what we are going to write a script to do. It uses this command, and you can look up the extras later.
                                    The proceed to go over the logic and flow of script writing.

                                    As a (more or less) competent programmer, I do not need this, but I am sure there are plenty of SMB IT guys that would like session like that. Guys that have little to no understanding of script logic. A 40 minute session + QA is not enough for something like this IMO.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      @JaredBusch I totally agree. I feel that the conference focuses very heavily on the entry level. It is hard because it has created a "core" of mostly high level, always returning folks like you and me that have been coming for years and were above the level of the conference the first time that we were there. That group, which is less than one hundred people, are there to see each other, not to attend the conference. For us, it is a networking event.

                                      For the vast majority of people at the conference, any material past the most basic is unusable. They are there to learn mostly how to use a product that often can be used effectively with no training or documentation. It is quite easy to be effective with SW right out of the box with just a few minutes of poking around, common sense and a few quick searches in the community for common issues. Having six or seven hundred of those people at a conference all of whom found SW challenging enough to need additional training and guidance creates a pretty solid base to determine what type and level of sessions can effectively be provided.

                                      Similar to local SpiceCorps events. If you use SW as a base to attract people, it is hard to have the local events take things to a higher level without leaving the base attendees behind.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        This is where the possibility of an ML conference might be really exciting. A smaller conference focused more on the core IT skills and vendors rather than on a base product primarily with everything else being ancillary. That base product creates a lot of attention and focus but also caps the value of the conference from an IT perspective. It's a double edged sword.

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                                        • MattKingM
                                          MattKing
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                                          Can the catchphrase be "Bar opens at noon."?

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                                          • Minion QueenM
                                            Minion Queen Banned
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                                            Keep the ideas of what you would like to see coming. I am watching and reading. We are looking at getting together an ML conference sometime in 2015 but want to make it very affordable so have to look into sponsors etc. as well. But the goal is for it to be for HIGH level IT Pro's and as such with give Vendors a real way to step up and work with us and really dig deep.

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