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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @Grey
      last edited by Obsolesce

      @grey said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

      @tim_g said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

      Third, Wordpress is EXTREMELY secure, more-so than almost every other platform out there. Millions and millions of sites are using it without any security issue at all. Only the people who don't properly secure and maintain it get victimized... and rightfully so!

      http://www.cvedetails.com/product/4096/Wordpress-Wordpress.html?vendor_id=2337
      hmmm....

      Did you bother to look at any of those? They are all old vulnerabilities from versions of WordPress you should not be using anymore. If you get hit, your fault!

      Edit: Literally, like every single one of them!

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      • jmooreJ
        jmoore @Obsolesce
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        @tim_g said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

        A wiki-style Wordpress site has been a godsend. Copy/paste in anything from clipboard... pics, screenshots, videos... even formatting from the web or Word. It's stupid easy and fast to make a very readable wiki page. What takes 5 minutes to do on our Wordpress wiki can take hours on mediawiki. That's not an exaggeration, I mean that literally.

        Always willing to try new things. Do you remember any of the plugin names that made this "wiki-style" ?

        Also I like mediawiki because it is much easier to navigate and get to the area you need than is Wordpress from what I have seen anyway. Thats why I chose a wiki for this project.

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        • jmooreJ
          jmoore @Obsolesce
          last edited by

          @tim_g said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

          Did you bother to look at any of those? They are all old vulnerabilities from versions of WordPress you should not be using anymore. If you get hit, your fault!

          Yeah Wordpress has always been good to me. I have run 2 websites for years and never got hacked which is really a miracle because at first I had no idea what I was doing. The only problem I've had was hackers doing so many attempts at my log in pages and server root that sometimes the site would go down when the server ran out of memory. I had a small server though and after I researched the issue just saw that it was a misconfiguration from Apache which i long since fixed. No issues since then. Knock on lots of Wood!

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @jmoore
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            @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

            Always willing to try new things. Do you remember any of the plugin names that made this "wiki-style" ?

            Theme:
            WikiWP

            Plugins:
            Broken Link Checker
            Disable Comments
            OnePress Image Elevator
            Responsive Lightbox
            Table of Contents Plus
            TablePress
            TinyMCE Advanced

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            • jmooreJ
              jmoore @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @tim_g said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

              @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

              Always willing to try new things. Do you remember any of the plugin names that made this "wiki-style" ?

              Theme:
              WikiWP

              Plugins:
              Broken Link Checker
              Disable Comments
              OnePress Image Elevator
              Responsive Lightbox
              Table of Contents Plus
              TablePress
              TinyMCE Advanced

              Thanks Tim! I want to look at those. Cool that its a theme

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
                last edited by

                To keep your WP site secure:

                1. KEEP IT UPDATED, ALWAYS! THEME, PLUGINS, WP, EVERYTHING!!!
                2. Wordfence Security plugin
                3. Securi Security plugin

                Take the steps those plugins recommend to secure your WP site.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates
                  last edited by stacksofplates

                  I've always used Drupal. IMO probably the most secure and flexible CMF there is and built with PHP. Just sounds like someone making excuses.

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                  • jmooreJ
                    jmoore @stacksofplates
                    last edited by

                    @stacksofplates said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                    I've always used Drupal. IMO probably the most secure and flexible CMF there is and built with PHP. Just sounds like someone making excuses.

                    Yeah tons of things are built with php. I've never tried Drupal but I suppose I will have to experiment sometime.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @jmoore
                      last edited by

                      @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                      @stacksofplates said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                      I've always used Drupal. IMO probably the most secure and flexible CMF there is and built with PHP. Just sounds like someone making excuses.

                      Yeah tons of things are built with php. I've never tried Drupal but I suppose I will have to experiment sometime.

                      ALmost everything is. Even Facebook and Wikipedia.

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                      • stacksofplatesS
                        stacksofplates @jmoore
                        last edited by

                        @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                        @stacksofplates said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                        I've always used Drupal. IMO probably the most secure and flexible CMF there is and built with PHP. Just sounds like someone making excuses.

                        Yeah tons of things are built with php. I've never tried Drupal but I suppose I will have to experiment sometime.

                        The learning curve is fairly steep but once you're over the hump you'll never want to use something else. It's kind of weird it's a really steep learning curve but it's super easy (like minutes) once you understand how to use it.

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                        • jmooreJ
                          jmoore
                          last edited by jmoore

                          Well it is a programming language in its own way so not really surprising that it takes a while to learn. I only know basics and enough to be dangerous

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @jmoore
                            last edited by

                            @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                            Well it is a programming language in its own way so not really surprising that it takes a while to learn. I only know basics and enough to be dangerous

                            He means Drupal, not PHP 🙂

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                            • jmooreJ
                              jmoore
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                              Oops! My fault, your right

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                PHP ranked one of the more secure languages for web development: https://gcn.com/articles/2014/04/24/programming-language-security.aspx?s=gcntech_250414

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                                • jmooreJ
                                  jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller Well that is interesting. So any idea what these vulnerability scans were he said he ran that kept giving up php as the culprit?

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @jmoore
                                    last edited by

                                    @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                    @scottalanmiller Well that is interesting. So any idea what these vulnerability scans were he said he ran that kept giving up php as the culprit?

                                    Probably old versions of PHP that needed to be updated 10 years ago. Another example of "keep your shit up to date."

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22
                                      last edited by wirestyle22

                                      I didn't read every post here, but your boss is wrong. An internal wiki is a fantastic way to document and i have no idea what he's talking about. It sounds like you're in a similar position as I am where all logic is discarded for seemingly no real reason.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                        @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                        @scottalanmiller Well that is interesting. So any idea what these vulnerability scans were he said he ran that kept giving up php as the culprit?

                                        Given everything else described, it is pretty safe to assume he's either just making it up or is not properly maintaining his system and the results are actually telling you that you have a security problem in your IT management.

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                          @jmoore said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                          @scottalanmiller Well that is interesting. So any idea what these vulnerability scans were he said he ran that kept giving up php as the culprit?

                                          Given everything else described, it is pretty safe to assume he's either just making it up or is not properly maintaining his system and the results are actually telling you that you have a security problem in your IT management.

                                          I'm guessing something like Nessus. We have a couple appliances with web interfaces that we can't update and they show up on scans. It's nothing you can change and means nothing about PHP. Anything is a vulnerability if you don't maintain it.

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                                          • jmooreJ
                                            jmoore @stacksofplates
                                            last edited by

                                            @stacksofplates said in Wiki Idea Shot Down:

                                            I'm guessing something like Nessus. We have a couple appliances with web interfaces that we can't update and they show up on scans. It's nothing you can change and means nothing about PHP. Anything is a vulnerability if you don't maintain it.

                                            Purely Windows here too btw

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