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@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
This kind of limited room (for meaningful growth) is a contributing reason that I often look for new work. Experience is a key factor to growing, and you often aren't going to get a lot of experience at a single job.
Also top-heavy SMB's who do this to make the organization look larger in general are dead end jobs. Which simply don't value the staff, and do odd things (like randomly hire people) for seemly no reason.
Just hte nature of SMB IT. Growth inevitably means moving on.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@coliver said in Feedback on Resume:
@bnrstnr said in Feedback on Resume:
I think a lot of the title stuff depends on your audience. In my experience, giant corporations love the ridiculous titles, where in small business, a title could easily land your resume directly in the garbage can. This is what we look at every day sifting through resumes, but then again, we are essentially a mom and pop shop.
Seems like that should be the opposite. A mom and pop store shouldn't care about title they should care about work experience and skills. Actually no one should really be looking at a title it doesn't really mean a whole lot to the industry as a whole (outside of extremely large companies).
If I only took a job with people who understood this I'd be homeless though
That's Spiceworks talk there. IT isn't that bad. Bad companies are rampant, but mostly in the SMB. Companies can't get large and operate that way, it just doesn't work. They have to manage at least moderately well or they fail.
Right, but I have never worked for what you would consider a large company. Look at my resume. I'm trying to educate myself to get into a larger company but I am not there yet.
But "have never worked for" isn't relevant to the conversation, is it? Large companies are not "better than" the SMB. That, also, is Spiceworks talk.
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@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@coliver said in Feedback on Resume:
@bnrstnr said in Feedback on Resume:
I think a lot of the title stuff depends on your audience. In my experience, giant corporations love the ridiculous titles, where in small business, a title could easily land your resume directly in the garbage can. This is what we look at every day sifting through resumes, but then again, we are essentially a mom and pop shop.
Seems like that should be the opposite. A mom and pop store shouldn't care about title they should care about work experience and skills. Actually no one should really be looking at a title it doesn't really mean a whole lot to the industry as a whole (outside of extremely large companies).
If I only took a job with people who understood this I'd be homeless though
That's Spiceworks talk there. IT isn't that bad. Bad companies are rampant, but mostly in the SMB. Companies can't get large and operate that way, it just doesn't work. They have to manage at least moderately well or they fail.
Right, but I have never worked for what you would consider a large company. Look at my resume. I'm trying to educate myself to get into a larger company but I am not there yet.
But "have never worked for" isn't relevant to the conversation, is it? Large companies are not "better than" the SMB. That, also, is Spiceworks talk.
What does better mean in this context? Higher paying? I think they are better if that is what we are judging it off of
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@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@coliver said in Feedback on Resume:
@bnrstnr said in Feedback on Resume:
I think a lot of the title stuff depends on your audience. In my experience, giant corporations love the ridiculous titles, where in small business, a title could easily land your resume directly in the garbage can. This is what we look at every day sifting through resumes, but then again, we are essentially a mom and pop shop.
Seems like that should be the opposite. A mom and pop store shouldn't care about title they should care about work experience and skills. Actually no one should really be looking at a title it doesn't really mean a whole lot to the industry as a whole (outside of extremely large companies).
If I only took a job with people who understood this I'd be homeless though
That's Spiceworks talk there. IT isn't that bad. Bad companies are rampant, but mostly in the SMB. Companies can't get large and operate that way, it just doesn't work. They have to manage at least moderately well or they fail.
Right, but I have never worked for what you would consider a large company. Look at my resume. I'm trying to educate myself to get into a larger company but I am not there yet.
But "have never worked for" isn't relevant to the conversation, is it? Large companies are not "better than" the SMB. That, also, is Spiceworks talk.
If you flipped that statement SMB's are almost better because you could hide more awful "IT work"
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@coliver said in Feedback on Resume:
@bnrstnr said in Feedback on Resume:
I think a lot of the title stuff depends on your audience. In my experience, giant corporations love the ridiculous titles, where in small business, a title could easily land your resume directly in the garbage can. This is what we look at every day sifting through resumes, but then again, we are essentially a mom and pop shop.
Seems like that should be the opposite. A mom and pop store shouldn't care about title they should care about work experience and skills. Actually no one should really be looking at a title it doesn't really mean a whole lot to the industry as a whole (outside of extremely large companies).
If I only took a job with people who understood this I'd be homeless though
That's Spiceworks talk there. IT isn't that bad. Bad companies are rampant, but mostly in the SMB. Companies can't get large and operate that way, it just doesn't work. They have to manage at least moderately well or they fail.
Right, but I have never worked for what you would consider a large company. Look at my resume. I'm trying to educate myself to get into a larger company but I am not there yet.
But "have never worked for" isn't relevant to the conversation, is it? Large companies are not "better than" the SMB. That, also, is Spiceworks talk.
What does better mean in this context? Higher paying? I think they are better if that is what we are judging it off of
You can get more pay by simply moving to a different job. Most often that is where many people get substantial raises from.
Not from moving to a larger organization, but by simply changing jobs and demanding more for their time.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@coliver said in Feedback on Resume:
@bnrstnr said in Feedback on Resume:
I think a lot of the title stuff depends on your audience. In my experience, giant corporations love the ridiculous titles, where in small business, a title could easily land your resume directly in the garbage can. This is what we look at every day sifting through resumes, but then again, we are essentially a mom and pop shop.
Seems like that should be the opposite. A mom and pop store shouldn't care about title they should care about work experience and skills. Actually no one should really be looking at a title it doesn't really mean a whole lot to the industry as a whole (outside of extremely large companies).
If I only took a job with people who understood this I'd be homeless though
That's Spiceworks talk there. IT isn't that bad. Bad companies are rampant, but mostly in the SMB. Companies can't get large and operate that way, it just doesn't work. They have to manage at least moderately well or they fail.
Right, but I have never worked for what you would consider a large company. Look at my resume. I'm trying to educate myself to get into a larger company but I am not there yet.
But "have never worked for" isn't relevant to the conversation, is it? Large companies are not "better than" the SMB. That, also, is Spiceworks talk.
What does better mean in this context? Higher paying? I think they are better if that is what we are judging it off of
I'm confused. Bigger doesn't imply anything like that. UNtil CIO of course, SMBs can't have senior CIOs, just makes no sense.
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@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@scottalanmiller said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
@coliver said in Feedback on Resume:
@bnrstnr said in Feedback on Resume:
I think a lot of the title stuff depends on your audience. In my experience, giant corporations love the ridiculous titles, where in small business, a title could easily land your resume directly in the garbage can. This is what we look at every day sifting through resumes, but then again, we are essentially a mom and pop shop.
Seems like that should be the opposite. A mom and pop store shouldn't care about title they should care about work experience and skills. Actually no one should really be looking at a title it doesn't really mean a whole lot to the industry as a whole (outside of extremely large companies).
If I only took a job with people who understood this I'd be homeless though
That's Spiceworks talk there. IT isn't that bad. Bad companies are rampant, but mostly in the SMB. Companies can't get large and operate that way, it just doesn't work. They have to manage at least moderately well or they fail.
Right, but I have never worked for what you would consider a large company. Look at my resume. I'm trying to educate myself to get into a larger company but I am not there yet.
But "have never worked for" isn't relevant to the conversation, is it? Large companies are not "better than" the SMB. That, also, is Spiceworks talk.
What does better mean in this context? Higher paying? I think they are better if that is what we are judging it off of
You can get more pay by simply moving to a different job. Most often that is where many people get substantial raises from.
Not from moving to a larger organization, but by simply changing jobs and demanding more for their time.
In fact, often easier to move up in the SMB because the job hopping is a requirement that can't be avoided.
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Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.
15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .
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@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.
15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .
It's the truth. I took a huge pay cut to start working here. I wanted to be a part of a team, but I forgot that a team consists of people and I don't like people
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@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.
15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .
i think it depends on where you start.
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@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.
15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .
i think it depends on where you start.
"Scrubbing dishes doesn't count as IT"
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@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.
15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .
i think it depends on where you start.
"Scrubbing dishes doesn't count as IT"
You're funny.
My first IT job - Desktop end user support paid $20K/yr
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@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.
15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .
i think it depends on where you start.
"Scrubbing dishes doesn't count as IT"
You're funny.
My first IT job - Desktop end user support paid $20K/yr
My first was similar. More though, maybe $23K. Which sounds trivial but is a lot of money when that is what you make
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@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
@Dashrender said in Feedback on Resume:
@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
Each job I've taken, except for the job I have now was a raise of at least 15k a year.
15K seems to be a lot (IMO) but I could just be completely getting screwed lol. . .
i think it depends on where you start.
"Scrubbing dishes doesn't count as IT"
You're funny.
My first IT job - Desktop end user support paid $20K/yr
My first one wasn't that long ago. I was doing everything but title at a high school. Left after a year because I was doing everything and kept getting thrown under the bus by my manager. I think I was making ~$40k
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I think my first job (started as a file clerk) and transition into desktop support I was making 20K, so I suppose.
The numbers just seem large for a 15K between job moves. Not including annual raises etc.
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@DustinB3403 said in Feedback on Resume:
I think my first job (started as a file clerk) and transition into desktop support I was making 20K, so I suppose.
The numbers just seem large for a 15K between job moves. Not including annual raises etc.
I was 16K my second move and 10K my third.
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I started at 32k
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I got about a 10% raise ~$4k when I made my recent switch.
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@wirestyle22 said in Feedback on Resume:
I started at 32k
And you've had 4 jobs correct? So you're at or around 77K currently, correct?
Is the cost of living so high that you feel you desktop support starts at that range?
