How to select right router for 100 users or more?
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Dear Friends,
I am looking for router which can load up to 100 Users (IP Phone) with 50 to 60 concurrent calls. Is there any suggestion? I have found this product, however, I haven't heard much about this producthttps://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/219652227--EdgeRouter-Which-EdgeRouter-Should-I-Use-
How do I know that 100 users using how many packet per second?
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@Jimmy_K said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
Dear Friends,
I am looking for router which can load up to 100 Users (IP Phone) with 50 to 60 concurrent calls. Is there any suggestion? I have found this product, however, I haven't heard much about this producthttps://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/219652227--EdgeRouter-Which-EdgeRouter-Should-I-Use-
How do I know that 100 users using how many packet per second?
100 user are not a big number, any of those should be ok.
The average user don't require more than ~1mbit of sustained traffic, on average. Much less, usually. -
@Francesco-Provino Thanks for your response.
I am confusing that the Edgerouter ERLite-3 has price $49 with 1 mil packet per second which is same price with Cisco Linksys E2500 with the packet per second (Not sure). The Cisco one which I am using it is unable to deliver the outbound call. Most of the calls are drop, busy and no voice or breaking voice.
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@Jimmy_K said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
@Francesco-Provino Thanks for your response.
I am confusing that the Edgerouter ERLite-3 has price $49 with 1 mil packet per second which is same price with Cisco Linksys E2500 with the packet per second (Not sure). The Cisco one which I am using it is unable to deliver the outbound call. Most of the calls are drop, busy and no voice or breaking voice.
I would say that a lot has to do with the QoS and the level of service difference between the too.
Routers don't 'care' what the packet is, it just pushes it along.
The Linksys E2500 likely just doesn't have the CPU or the frame work that the ERL does. The ERL is a work horse - which is why it is in use by so many here on ML. UBNT has a solid product line that isn't tied to the name Cisco.... UBNT has proven that there product is superior in a number of ways over Cisco time after time.
Go with the ERl - No fuss - or headache
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UBNT equipment is true business equipment. That E2500 is consumer equipment.
It's likely the processor in the E2500 isn't up to the task that you present it.
In performance test (as @scottalanmiller for links) the Edgerouters constantly out perform Cisco equipment 10's or 100's of times more expensive.
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@Jimmy_K said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
I am looking for router which can load up to 100 Users (IP Phone) with 50 to 60 concurrent calls.
Networking gear is never selected based on the number of users. Networking gear has bandwidth limits, processing overhead, ACL lengths, packets per second and so forth, but it does not care about users, number of IP addresses or so forth.
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@Jimmy_K said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
How do I know that 100 users using how many packet per second?
Only be measuring it, there is no such thing as packets per user. Same as there is no bandwidth per user. One user might use zero, the next as many as you can give them.
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@Jimmy_K said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
I am confusing that the Edgerouter ERLite-3 has price $49 with 1 mil packet per second which is same price with Cisco Linksys E2500 with the packet per second (Not sure). The Cisco one which I am using it is unable to deliver the outbound call. Most of the calls are drop, busy and no voice or breaking voice.
ERLite is normally $95, not $49. Linksys is not even good gear for home, let alone for a business. It has no place in any environment.
Cisco doesn't realistically make anything to compete with Ubiquiti. This is Ubiquiti's claim to fame. Cisco Linksys is totally garbage and should not exist, as an IT pro, you should remove it from your memory and simply treat it as a toy that non-technical people are sold be bad stores taking advantage of them, there is no situation where you will ever purchase, recommend or deal with one - not at home, not at work.
Cisco Meraki is far inferior to Ubiquiti at an insane price. The best Meraki isn't up to the entry point Ubiquiti. Meraki was good gear until Cisco bought it, raised the prices and didn't keep up with the market. Today, it should never come up as a choice because Ubiquiti ubiquitously beats it.
Cisco proper you have to spend more than $3,000 to get a device that is on par with the ERLite and you need to spend closer to $10,000 to compete with the higher end Ubiquiti. Cisco gear is mediocre at best and should not be in the realm of discussion until you are in the enterprise and looking at very unique gear and with devices well over the $10K mark as a starting point.
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@Jimmy_K said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
I am confusing that the Edgerouter ERLite-3 has price $49 with 1 mil packet per second which is same price with Cisco Linksys E2500 with the packet per second (Not sure).
Why are you confused by the prices? Price does not determine quality, especially with companies like Cisco who charge you for their brand name with no connection to the cost of the product that they are selling.
Ubiquiti is the best on the market for the space that they are in. Cisco is possibly the worst or near to it, in most cases. Price has no basis in quality.
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@scottalanmiller said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
Thank you friends and scottaland. That is very clear info & I know what should I get (Edgerouter).
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@Jimmy_K said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
@scottalanmiller said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
Thank you friends and scottaland. That is very clear info & I know what should I get (Edgerouter).
Lots of experience with that series around here as well, so no shortage of people to turn to for help.
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It's a shame that we don't have many suppliers in the UK that are selling the Edge Router.
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@StuartJordan said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
It's a shame that we don't have many suppliers in the UK that are selling the Edge Router.
How many suppliers do you need?
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@JackCPickup said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
@StuartJordan said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
It's a shame that we don't have many suppliers in the UK that are selling the Edge Router.
How many suppliers do you need?
Just one
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@JackCPickup - Well Ebuyer and Misco doesn't supply them and they are probably one of our biggest IT suppliers.
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@StuartJordan said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
@JackCPickup - Well Ebuyer and Misco doesn't supply them and they are probably one of our biggest IT suppliers.
In the US you get them from Amazon...
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@scottalanmiller said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
In the US you get them from Amazon...
Meh, sometimes. If you have a credit card. The point of working in distribution channels is that you do not use a credit card.
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@Jimmy_K I am curious as to what the application for voice is. Is it a call center? 60% end point utilization is very high for normal office use.
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@Jimmy_K said in How to select right router for 100 users or more?:
@Francesco-Provino Thanks for your response.
I am confusing that the Edgerouter ERLite-3 has price $49 with 1 mil packet per second which is same price with Cisco Linksys E2500 with the packet per second (Not sure). The Cisco one which I am using it is unable to deliver the outbound call. Most of the calls are drop, busy and no voice or breaking voice.
The E2500 series Linksys uses a weak broadcomm CPU and has 64mb of RAM
https://www.broadcom.com/products/wireless/wireless-lan-infrastructure/bcm5358xWhereas the ERLite uses a beefy Cavium MIPS CPU and has 512MB of RAM
https://cavium.com/pdfFiles/CN50XX_PB_Rev1.pdfNight and day difference...
